[pp.int.general] Request for common press release

[Amelia Andersdotter]

On 05/09/07, Jan Huwald <jh at sotun.de> wrote:
> Thank your for your advice. In a rush of blood I felt into the trap of
> interpreating the word security as they do. I hope we can make this point
> clear in the press release.
>

Ah. Yes. I am very hot-headed, especially when it comes to these
issues. He has a fundamental fact error: he says that the terrorist
threat continues to be high. Recent figures (2006) from Europol,
suggest that separatist attacks are in fact a lot more common than
islamist attacks.

http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/TESAT/TESAT2007.pdf

This report was posted on the Swedish pirate forum this spring. From page 13:
Terrorist Attacks in 2006 by Type of Terrorism

Islamist 1
Separatist 424
Left-Wing 55
Right-Wing 1
Unknown 17
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>From page 14:
Arrested Terrorism Suspects in 2006 by Type of Terrorism

Islamist 257
Separatist 226
Left-Wing 52
Right-Wing 15
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The arrests of islamist terrorists are 257% higher than the number of
attacks, and that is also the kind of terrorism we are pledged to be
most afraid of. Yet we have nothing but the words of Frattini upon
which to base the allegation that this is a real threat. We actually
cannot support with evidence that this is a "real" and "high" risk in
society.

Frattini does not actually mention at all in that speech what kind of
evidence he bases his claims on other than his claims.

still upset,
Amelia

> Regards,
> Jan Huwald
>
> Am Mittwoch, 5. September 2007 21:52:06 schrieb Amelia Andersdotter:
> > My point was obviously that security is a valid point from Frattini,
> > but his comparison between it and privacy is not.
> >
> > People want security and we can't argue that it's not a good thing
> > because they'll think we're mad. Security is in fact what most
> > European states is based upon, so the concept needs to be tweaked,
> > rather than dismissed.
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