[pp.int.general] where is the manifesto?
r.bakels at planet.nl
Tue Dec 23 17:46:22 CET 2008
> The main thing to remember is, the manifesto is not just for the EU, it's
> for all parties, worldwide. It has particular importance for parties in
> Russia, or us in the US, and other places. It's a worldwide document.
Ah, I di not realize that, you are right. Still I find the introduction
about demoracy and human rights pretty long. Oh yes, I am aware that Europe
is different from the US, and the developing nations again are very
different. Is PP-INT striving for improvement of democracy outside Europe
and the US? I don't say it is unimportant, but it is a daunting task ...
Reference to specific human rights is dangerous. Is abolishment of the death
penalty in the US a PP issue? And how about the "right to family life"? It
is not in the manifesto. But it is in the ECHR. And it is very
controversial. In our country, we have many immigrants from Morocco and
Turkey. And, you know, wherever there are immigrants, there are tensions
(perhaps less in the US). Many of these people "import" brides from their
country of origin (or often: the country of origin of their parents or
grandparents). Many people think it is unfortunate to "import" even more
Turks and Moroccans - who often do not speak the language of their new land.
BUT: should Turks and Moroccans be denied the right to choose their wife (or
IMHO, inforation freedom - PP's "core business" - is hard enough by itself.
Should the freedom of press go so far as to allow journalist to *destruct*
people? Only if they are *public* figures? Could a author prohibit an
awkward translation of his work to be published?
There are actually enourous differences between the US and the EU. Copyright
(US&UK) is something else than (EU) author's right (often denoted with the
French "droit d'auteur"). And the EU - as a union of states - is a problem
by itself, with its democratic deficit and its proneness to (corporate)
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