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In a true debate, the issue is not who is wrong and who is right. It is an 
exchangeof ideas that may lead to something brillinant that is better than 
both had in mind initially.

So far my only conclusion is that we have "realo's" and "fundi's". Perhaps 
some political systems need "realo's" and others need "fundi's". Dutch 
people hate "fundi's", and there is room for different opinions (as you 
know, we have a tradition of many political parties). In a political system 
with cast-in-concrete positions of just a few political parties, perhaps the 
best option is to make as much noise as possible = a "fundi" approach. The 
software patent directive was rejected because the proponents also voted 
against it because it had become uncontrollable due to "fundi" activist 
action.
reinier