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[Max Moritz Sievers]

Carlos Ayala wrote:
> How long till finally Max receives a temporary ban, as David requests?

Why should I get banned? I'm not the sole person discussing something other 
than the manifesto on this list. Why should just I get banned if anyone 
should get banned?

> Look at this:
>
> [...]
>
> Contradicting himself; furthermore:
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> De: Max Moritz Sievers <m.sievers at piratenpartei-hessen.de>
> Enviado: jueves, 13 de noviembre, 2008 14:10:34
>
> > I didn't want the PPs vote for another nuclear power plant or another
> > Three Gorges Dam. You seem to forget that politics souldn't be a number
> > game but about convincing by arguing. We are not enslaved by democracy
> > but we prevail by any means necessary.
> >
> > We as PPDE have decided to expand our platform based on our values which
> > reveal in our core issues. So we teach what the people should want.
>
> How many of you, folks, did understand the same as I did when read that any
> means from Max?

How should we know what you understood?

| It is no secret that Malcolm's doctrine of freedom by any means necessary
| generates fear. It advocates the use of force in an attempt to gain social
| justice which poses a threat to law and order of the society. This concept
| is particularly disturbing to those who control the means of change. This
| idea, however, is also disturbing to those who prefer non-violence even when
| they are subjected to injustice, to those who have resigned themselves to
| failure, and to those who have been filled with fear "ever since they were
| babies."
|
| Malcolm understood the impact of his militancy, and he used the effects of
| his messages to effectuate social change. His robust rhetoric, composed of
| ordinary words, exposed with ruthless honesty the faces of oppression, the
| power structure which perpetrates oppression, and the poverty culture which
| cultivates oppression. Malcolm challenged and admonished both oppressors and
| the oppressed, urging them to change and bring an end to injustice. Malcolm
| learned to address both the oppressors and the oppressed in the same speech,
| often at the same time. In doing so, he would instill fear in the hearts of
| the powerful and erase it from the psyche of the powerless. Malcolm chose
| phrases such as "freedom by any means necessary" to empower the audience
| while simultaneously threatening the perpetrators of oppression.
|
| [...]
|
| Malcolm [...] always believed that "there is nothing more frightening than
| ignorance in action."
|
| [...]
|
| It must be noted that Malcolm's concept of any means necessary includes, but
| is not limited to non-violent civil disobedience. If non-violent civil
| disobedience does not change the system, then any means necessary allows the
| oppressed to consider armed resistance. The oppressed may use multiple
| strategies. One group among the oppressed, for example, may use non-violent
| means to fight oppression; another may advocate more radical methods to
| change the system. This multi-faceted approach creates more pressure on the
| oppressor to lift oppression. In order for such a movement to be effective,
| however, the oppressor must believe that those who are involved are serious
| about their cause. Those who are oppressed must be willing to sacrifice
| their lives to abolish the state of subjugation. It is also important that
| the oppressed maintain their underlying solidarity because it is inevitable
| that they will encounter efforts to divide them and turn them against each
| other.

-- Ali Khan: Lessons from Malcolm X: Freedom by Any Means Necessary. Howard 
Law Journal, Vol. 38, p. 79, 1994. Available at SSRN: 
http://ssrn.com/abstract=938821

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_any_means_necessary there is a fitting 
photo of Malcolm X.

-- 
regards
Max Moritz Sievers