[pp.int.general] Open positions in PPI

W Tovey will.tovey at pp-international.net
Mon Dec 7 19:03:02 CET 2009


I've added a few thoughts on the comments here.

Sven Clement wrote:
> This HAS TO BE normal procedure for the coreteam, I totally 
> understand, that you guys are working hard, I also agree that we 
> cannot have always a complete answer after 24/48 hours, but I would be 
> glad to at least see that someone is looking into my mail. Also 
> because I (as most of the others) have to be transparent with my board 
> so that if I do not get at least an answer telling me: "we do not have 
> time, let's discuss it later" I can't tell anything to my board which 
> is bad for approval of PPI on a national level.
I would like to think that this already is normal procedure; it was 
discussed to an extent in the meeting on the 26th. Hopefully things 
should be improving on this front.
> I understand Samirs concerns about being completely transparent but I 
> do think that at LEAST the members (the parties) should get ALL 
> information that there is. Including but not limiting to complete 
> IRC-logs, information about meetings with other organizations, status 
> of the incorporation of PPI, etc.
>
> This does not have to be open to everyone, but EVERY BOARD should get 
> access to the same informations as the coreteam, because if that is 
> not guaranteed, how can the coreteam be controlled? How can the 
> national boards deliberate onto something they have not ALL the 
> information? This entire discussion could have been avoided if the 
> national boards would have had access to the mentioned information.
I should have complete IRC logs from the Coreteam channel since I joined 
in October and there is no technical issue with making them available on 
request and I am happy to answer questions on issues from the minutes. 
The channel is also open and unmoderated outside official meetings. 
However, as I'm sure those of you who frequent IRC are aware, among the 
important discussions there are quite a few off-topic notes, personal 
details and similar things that are of little relevance or interest to 
anyone other than a subset of those present. I can try to prune these 
sections from the logs, but that would seem to be the general idea 
behind making minutes - they should contain all the relevant material 
(although I can try to put more details in if they are wanted).

As for the status of incorporation of PPI; to my knowledge, PPI 
currently consists of the Coreteam (6 people), forum (at 
pp-international.net), wiki (at int.piratenpartei.de) and some mailing 
lists and IRC channels - there is a bank account being set up, but 
that's been delayed due to issues with the paperwork. As for getting in 
contact with all the PP boards, I wish it were that simple; there is 
currently no "official" list of member PPs, never mind contact details 
for their boards. So far (using the forum which as 32 countries listed, 
the wiki, with 36 and Wikipedia with 35 and from rummaging around all 
their websites) I have a list of about 40 PPs around the world, but I 
only have verified contact details for 14 of them (and no details for 
some). Some of the newer PPs don't have boards or leaders yet; some PPs 
seem to have disappeared and reappeared elsewhere. However, this is 
something I am working on at the moment, but it takes time. I would ask 
people to be patient for now; I am happy to respond to individual 
requests from PPs but until there is a better framework in place, I am 
reluctant to send out too many emails to the current list (I have 
already had one person noting that they're getting too much traffic to 
deal with), particularly when there may be 'sensitive' information 
included and some of the addresses are unverified.

**If anyone reading this is the international co-ordinator (or 
equivalent) of your PP (and you haven't heard from me recently) please 
do get in touch.**

One of the things I intend to propose at the conference (or recommend to 
my successor) is some sort of "official registration form" for Parties 
that wish to be members of PPI that requests, among other things, 
contact details for an "International Co-ordinator" through which we can 
talk to the party. I know this may sound like excessive bureaucracy and 
unnecessary paperwork but without it, I fear PPI will fall apart.

Anyway, I hope that has cleared some things up; as always, I am happy to 
answer questions or respond to requests for more details, just give me a 
nudge.

-Will


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