[pp.int.general] purpose of manifesto

Eduardo Robles edulix at gmail.com
Sat Jan 24 21:51:40 CET 2009


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Will Pomes <pomescollege at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation. It really helps.
> 2 questions though:
>  1) Who makes the comparison? 2) What is PSOE?


Hi,

PSOE is the major Spanish socialist party, which is in the government now by
the way. PP is the other major political party here in spain, which is
considered to be right-wing. Those two are the only two big political
parties, and the situation is quite similar to USA in regards to polarized
bipartidism. So that's why in general everyone tries to compare you with
both parties PSOE and PP. Being PIRATA a party which doesn't want be
clasified as either right-wing (like PP) or left-wing (like PSOE) we
struggle with the problem of people thinking that our acronym is PP instead
of PIRATA.

Really, it's incredible how many people try to find if we are in one side or
another, and some of those which are eskeptical about our political stances
use malicius acronyms like PPirata as Carlos mentioned earlier. Other than
that, I personally don't mind if internally in this list some people
sometimes refer to us as "Spanish PP" because I know what you are referering
to, but as you can see it can be troublesome for us if that acronym gets
popularized, so better try to use another one. The most obvious could be
PIRATA =). And if we want to reer to all the pirata parties, well as someone
has said, one good way might be "the pirate movement", I think.

For being a pirate movement it's important that we define well our own
pirate language. The manifiesto is part of it. A good example of that is
that the RIAA & co use their own malicius language, and we don't want make
the mistake of adopting it, because what we say is defined by how we say it,
and thu by the words and expressions used, which can have second or negative
meanings.


Just my 2c, regards,
     Eduardo Robles Elvira (PIRATA member, Spain)
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