[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 29, Issue 31

Sat Jul 18 18:42:07 CEST 2009

	As a national body, the United States Pirate Party does not use
Twitter. Some of it's constituents and officers do, and it's their duty
to reveal their identity. I personally made the move to install a
free-er alternative, Laconica, on our server (currently down, stupid
Apache).
	We have a Facebook group here,
https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204546161 .


LiLo wrote:
> are you all Pirates in some Twitter or Facebook locations? i'm looking
> in facebook and seeing too much fakes. pliz send me a private mail so i
> can add you. we think that union is the real force.
> 
> regards
> 
> pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net ha scritto:
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>>    1. Re: Clarifying the status of PIRATA (Spanish    pirate party).
>>       (Matias Pajulahti)
>>    2. PP Sweden, PPI and national PP's (Partidul Piratilor)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:10:08 +0300
>> From: Matias Pajulahti <matias.pajulahti at iki.fi>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Clarifying the status of PIRATA (Spanish
>>     pirate party).
>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>>     <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>> Message-ID:
>>     <9e2990bd0907160910mdb28bf2ref2d03d04e82ec74 at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Hiya,
>>
>> Here's my input to help you out. I'm only correcting the English. I
>> know nothing about the original version nor Spanish. There might be
>> more corrections needed than what I've noticed or been able to handle.
>> Someone else should check also. :)
>>
>> 2009/7/16 loikva <enrique at errea.es>:
>>  
>>> ? Hi:
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?We, the spanish pirate party, would like to know if the
>>> content
>>> of the two next paragrahps, extracted and translated, from an
>>> interview made
>>> to Amelia Andersdotter during his recent staying in Barcelona and
>>> published
>>> by a spanish paper , is correct:
>>>
>>>
>>> ##############beggining of the extract###############################
>>>
>>> 1) Do you think that the spanish pirate party could reach so much
>>> votes as
>>> the swedish pirate party?
>>>     
>>
>> "Do you think that the Spanish Pirate Party could reach as much votes
>> as the Swedish Pirate Party?" [ + or more :) ]
>>
>>  
>>> It is difficult. In Spain there are two main politic parties over the
>>> rest
>>> of them.
>>>     
>>
>> "political parties"
>>
>>  
>>> Besides, the spanish pirates tend to ?work more through
>>> associations than political organizations.
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> "Spanish", not spanish.
>>
>>  
>>> 2) Apart the swedish, more pirate parties has been created ?in some
>>> other
>>> countries .
>>>     
>>
>> "Apart the Swedish [Pirate] party, " / "Apart the Swedish one, "
>>
>> ", more pirate parties have been created [ / started ] in some other
>> countries."
>>
>>  
>>> Does it exist any sort of agreements or common issues between
>>> all of them?
>>>     
>>
>> "Are there any sort of agreements or common issues between all of them?"
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>> No. Many of them are still growing and there is still a lack of internal
>>> organization. Also we have found with common cultural barriers in
>>> some of
>>> them.
>>>     
>>
>> "Also we have found common cultural barriers in some of them" ?? or
>> "Also we have found it common that there are some cultural barriers in
>> some of them."
>>
>> I think the last version is what was meant? Those two I made both mean
>> totally different things from each other.
>>
>>  
>>> ##############end of the extract###################################
>>>
>>> If it is correct, we would like to remark that the Spanish pirate party
>>> (PIRATA) was created as a regular and official ?political party,
>>> corresponding the the laws of the Government of Spain, in 2006.
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> "to the laws of the" etc
>>
>>  
>>> If it isn't, please cite the corrections needed to understand it
>>> undoubtedly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ?Enrique Errea a.k.a. "ninHer"
>>> ? ? ?II. RR. Coordinator of the Spanish Pirate Party (PIRATA)
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~
>> Matias Pajulahti
>> Chairman of Piraattinuoret
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:53:30 +0300
>> From: Partidul Piratilor <contact at partidulpiratilor.ro>
>> Subject: [pp.int.general] PP Sweden, PPI and national PP's
>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> Message-ID:
>>     <326d352b0907170853l2062b809qa304999c21276ccc at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Most of us had the feeling something was wrong in their country politic
>> class, but did not knew what to do. The fight for civil liberties,
>> change in
>> the copyright legislation and privacy was truly mostly the NGO field,
>> with
>> many small groups fighting for the same objective. The Swedish PP set the
>> example on how can we take the fight on another level, and some of us
>> acted
>> since a couple of years ago. Maybe the PPI has not evolved into what
>> should
>> be, but the steps taken until now are more than honorable. Some of you
>> took
>> it personal when it was said that a PP should target its voters, but
>> we all
>> must understand that the pirates as a political movement are more that
>> just
>> their ideals. We have stepped into a dogs world and we should follow some
>> rules before bringing down the establishment.
>> The Swedish PP and the German PP has shown the way. I would appreciate
>> more
>> technical details and even help from them, for the parties already
>> established or just starting. Their experience is invaluable for us. What
>> they will do with the knowledge aquired ... (to be completed by them :) )
>> For the PPI to exist, the wiki will also be a extraordinary help, and
>> real
>> links between members of the parties will aid more.
>> Let's take Romania example: for every news article about Swedish PP and
>> German PP we win more members. So they are helping us without doing much.
>> (As a sidenote: all pirate making declarations to the press, please
>> transmit
>> throug the reporter the call for people to join their national PP's. It
>> helps alot.) Of course, at some point we will finish the legal
>> proceedings
>> and register as a party. Then, the biggest help we could get then will
>> be a
>> visit here form some proeminent members of other parties. The same could
>> work for other parties.
>>
>> >From Romania,
>> Cristian
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