[pp.int.general] TPB in NL

Andrew Norton ktetch at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 15:08:15 CEST 2009

Hardly, it's data created about copyrighted data. it's not in any way
similar to the original work, so hardly a derivative. If you want an
analogy, what about a movie review? That also wouldn't exist without
the copyrighted material. The thing is there's lots of ways to
generate a different hash. Add a small file, or change the size of the
checksummed pieces, and the hash changes. Some client makers
(maketorrent) will even have the hash changed if the trackers change.
Therefore they're not directly linked to the original copyrighted
file. There's no way to tell, looking at a hash, what that is the hash
of. It could be the hash of anything, it's a mathematical derivative
of a checksummed derivative of all the files inside the torrent, which
may have multiple copyrights (for instance, who owns the copyright on
the 'torrent downloaded from demonoid.com' text file?


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:12 AM, np<np at planetarc.de> wrote:
> Andrew Norton wrote:
>> In short, a torrent file about XYZ, contains no actual copyrighted
>> data about XYZ, just data about it.
> IANAL, but:
> One could argue that the hash of the torrent is a non-licensed derivate
> work and therefore falls under the copyright just as the original.
> After all: The hash would not exist without the original copyrighted
> material and it does not add any artistic value.
> Cheers,
>    Nils Pipenbrinck
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