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Wed Jul 1 14:51:58 CEST 2009
so some redundancy will be nice...<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Patrick M=E4chler v/o Valio wrote:<br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The German party once set up a Wiki at<br>
<a href=3D"http://int.piratenpartei.de/Category:International_Conference" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Category:International_Confere=
nce</a><br>
I guess we could start now right there and if anyone insists on that it<br>
might be moved to PPI server someday.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
patrick<br>
<br>
Mikko S=E4rel=E4 wrote:<br>
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I have a suggestion. If there is going to be a PPI conference, let's pu=
t<br>
up a wiki page (or several) for the planning - that way the details and<br>
ideas are not lost to the mailing list archive. And also, let's agree t=
hat<br>
the conference will create minutes of the meeting and the decisions and<br>
put them to the wiki.<br>
<br>
It's about time we start working in ways that allows new comers to find=
<br>
ideas and things previously discussed and decided. After all, you can't=
<br>
fault people for discussing the same things again and again, if we never<br=
>
gather up the old ideas into a format that a new comer can access. (And<br>
no, requiring someone to go through an entire email archive and somehow<br>
'know' what was discussed in a face to face meeting some years ago =
is not<br>
an acceptable requirement, if we actually mean to get something done).<br>
<br>
-Mikko<br>
<br>
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>
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Their purpose is to discuss the issues that are brought up. I do not<br>
have an archive, because I was never able to attend one (air fair is<br>
expensive from the US). It would be better to hear from the people<br>
that were there. They can tell you what went on better than I can. A<br>
good number of people on this list were at most of the meetings.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Eric<br>
Priezkalns<<a href=3D"mailto:eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk" target=
=3D"_blank">eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
As you have a history of PPI meetings, is it too rude to ask what their<br>
purpose is? =A0Perhaps you have an on-line archive of what the PPI meetings=
<br>
have done and agreed previously, but if so, I cannot find it...<br>
<br>
E<br>
<br>
On 4 Aug 2009, at 14:39, Andrew Norton wrote:<br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Another reason 'why not berlin' is =A0simply "Berlin is so 200=
8" In<br>
other words, the meeting cycles between parties, in an attempt to make<br>
it 'local' to each party in turn, and give each one a chance to how=
<br>
things off. The PPI meeting was held in Berlin in Jan 08. Before it's<b=
r>
Germany's turn, it will be Austria's again (since they held the<br>
meeting before). The order so far has been Austria, Germany, Sweden,<br>
Finland (with no summer meeting this year, because of the proximity of<br>
the EU elections)<br>
<br>
And Brussels is a logical choice anyway, for the first meeting after<br>
the first Pirate Party member is elected to office anywhere, in<br>
Brussels. Has a nice symbolism there. Plus, great as the CCC is, the<br>
PP tagging along their international conference onto their event isn't<=
br>
doing many favours to either the CCC (which gets disrupted) or to the<br>
PP (where it ends up playing second fiddle)<br>
<br>
Also, something else to remember - there are parties outside of Europe<br>
as well. Belgium is slightly more accessable (and cheaper) than<br>
Berlin, from the US, Canada, and South America (nowhere is accessible<br>
from Australia, sorry, but CrocodileDundeeistan is too far away...<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM, moira br=FClisauer<<a href=3D"mailto:mo=
osline at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">moosline at gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Why Brussel? why not Geneva?<br>
<br>
Or if you talc with the CCC perhaps we can do things like that paralell<br>
or<br>
before/after the 26th Chaos Communication Congress. It's in december in=
<br>
Berlin.<br>
<br>
Think about that<br>
<br>
greetz<br>
Moira Br=FClisauer<br>
Aktuarin der PPs Paritparty of Switzerland<br>
<br>
2009/8/3 Raquero <<a href=3D"mailto:enrique at errea.es" target=3D"_blank">=
enrique at errea.es</a>><br>
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
=A0 =A0 Hi:<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 From PIRATA (Spanish pirate party) are too agree t=
o set a<br>
date for a meeting<br>
in Brussels, theoretically. Personally, it suits to me really fine in a<br>
accomodation way of talking. PIRATA are also agree to =A0settle some basic<=
br>
pillars and common points of view regarding who (the PPI movement) are<br>
(aregointobe )we, where we heading for, and which are the goals in a<br>
short<br>
or<br>
medium term. Apart this, we would like to know or clarifify about the<br>
meaning<br>
of " PPI key members contacted for". May be are "de facto&qu=
ot; elegible key<br>
members stablished ?<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Someone mentioned too that if required, some trans=
lations<br>
could be made<br>
apart to the English or French lenguages. PIRATA can manage this task,<br>
also,<br>
and add the Spanish as another option/lenguage to be read or used for.<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Warm regards.<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Enrique Errea. (ninHer)<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 II.RR. Coordinator of PIRATA. (Spanish Pirate Part=
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