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[Bert Van de Poel]

Reinier Bakels schreef:
> The same applies for any kind of liberal politics. In American 
> terminology, a liberal is nearly a communist, far left wing. In NL, 
> the traditional liberals have become a conservative law&order party 
> experimenting with xenophobia. So we have an addtitional 
> "social-liberal" party (D66). Even our Greens won a prize for their 
> wonderful "liberal" policy (which is odd because the Dutch greens 
> originated out of a merger of three parties including former communists).
>
> True liberalism is not far away from socialism. The paradigm of a free 
> market can be a pretext to foster the interests of big corporations. 
> But liberalism should not be confused by laisser-faire, 
> non-intervention politics. The paradox is that a free market requres 
> strong control, else it is no longer free. The present financial 
> crisis makes it much easier to explain the paradox. "Market failure" 
> is the name of the game (market fundamentalists argue that there is no 
> market at all in cases typically designated as "market failure" - just 
> a matter of terminology)
>
> The PP should not overly concerned to be a one-issue party. In that 
> respect, it is by no means an exception. We used to have a "Europe 
> Transparant" party, which even got two seats in the EP. Unfortunately, 
> two is the minimum number of people needed to quarrel and to split up 
> - which is what they did. Cristian can not quarrel with himself ...
>
> In NL the "animal party" is very successful. They won at the recent EP 
> elections (but it is still uncertain whether they will get a seat in 
> the EP, it is a marginal case). They argue that if you don't respect 
> animals, you won't respect people either. Which is questionable logic, 
> but sounds fine.
>
> reinier
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Yes, the "liberal" term really does mean something entirely different in 
each country.
For example here in Belgium liberal has a center to center-right place 
on the political line and sometimes have a laisser-faire view on things, 
although it depends from time to time.
Also, the fact that we like to splitt things up for different languages 
(which I find rather silly), we have a flemish and a wallonish liberal 
party, and they aren't exactly the same (to complicate things even more).

Bert.

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