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     To give you a quick briefing, this individual was sentenced to 24
> months in prison for hacking, and upon gaining probation, began supporting
> the PPUS by helping with web security. Under his probation, he was not to
> enter into any anarchist groups, attempt any hacking, nor associate with any
> of his hacking contacts.
>      *With a thumbs up from the PPUS, this individual ran security flaw
> checks for the Party, and reported his findings to the administrators in the
> IRC.*
>      Mr. Norton, also known as K`Tetch in the IRC, subsequently took the
> IRC logs to the volunteer's probation officer, with the intent to have him
> either get into trouble for legally hacking into the PPUS, or to have him
> sent back to prison.
>

(the bold is mine)

Is that true? Did he had permissions to do the security checks?


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:

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> And just to give some context, Mr "Tyler Durden" Is Actually Jeremy
> Hammond, a convicted hacker and fraudster, who served time in Federal
> Prison for stealing Credit Card information (5,000 numbers) from a
> political protest group. He is currently on supervised release, and
> while on said release, has been charged with a number of other crimes,
> of which there are more details on his wiki page
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hammond
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in not wanting such convicted and habitual
> criminals associated with the pirate party, nor is the US party allowed
> to do so, under it's constitution
> (
> http://memwiki.pirate-party.us/index.php?title=Constitution#Article_9:_Acting_Within_the_Law_.26_Civil_Liberties
> )
>
> This, as with many other of Jeremy's rantings are bordering on the
> fantastical and show a sense of paranoia that threatens to run out of
> control. They also, as is usual, bear little resemblance to the facts. A
> prime example is this assertion "1: he had no authority to do so, as he
> had resigned from the US Pirate Party and  PP-International". I was
> asked to operate the election, by the then-administrator, Glenn Kerbien,
> as he would be running, so as to have it run independently. Second, my
> resignation
> (
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2009-July/003598.html
> )
> happened some days after the election.
>
> Regardless, this vote of no confidence was witnessed by two seperate
> international representatives, as was the second. The logs of both are
> freely available. Under the constitution, that is the requirement, and
> those are the restrictions on taking office. Mr Martin accepted those
> restrictions the moment he accepted the office. That he has now decided
> to ignore those restrictions, once they have worked against him says
> volumes. Meanwhile, he is not answering or responding to phone calls,
> emails, sms messages or any other form of communication (from any in the
> party that have tried to contact him), and that says even more.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 1/3/2010 8:29 AM, tyler durden wrote:
> > Hello there, I apologize that this is my first post to the list, but I
> > felt I couldn't be quiet anymore, and that international intervention
> > in the US Pirate Party might be necessary.
> >
> > Firstly I'd like to point out Andrew Norton's recent statements to
> > this list is NOT in line with any sort of consensus with other members
> > of the US Pirate Party. He is not a spokesperson for the USPP, is not
> > an official officer, and really has no business communicating the
> > status of the party through quasi-official announcements. Some of the
> > disagreements and contentions people have with Andrew is explained at
> > this post, http://pirate-party.us/content/party-unity but I will try
> > to explain some additional details here.
> >
> > The Andrew Norton's recent history with the US Pirate Party has been
> > unprofessional at best and treasonous at worst. His actions have very
> > much divided the USPP to the point of disfunction and a possible split
> > might be in the works.
> >
> > During the most recent Pirate Party elections where Ryan Martin was
> > running against Channel6, Andrew Norton (K`Tetch) took it upon himself
> > to administer the election procedures. Many people were raising
> > objections to Andrew Norton's voting process - 1: he had no authority
> > to do so, as he had resigned from the US Pirate Party and
> > PP-International, and 2:  He developed the rules in secret and
> > announced it 24 hours before voting was to begin, and 3. The voter
> > requirements he specified were highly contested by many active members
> > of the party because it required that in to vote you had to have a
> > website/forum account for more than a month. A lot of people were
> > disenfranchised from the voting process because of this regulation.
> > Despite this, Ryan Martin won the vote and reached an agreement with
> > Channel6 to split up the officer positions.
> >
> > There's more. During the election process, a minor sql injection
> > vulnerability was discovered in the 3rd party polling script
> > BallotBin.com that allowed users to hijack other user's polls. That
> > vulnerability was communicated to the company via email in which the
> > company thanked the person who discovered the vulnerability for
> > finding and reporting it. After the election results were in and the
> > election closed, there was a  demonstration of the vulnerability in
> > which the candidate "Eugene Debs" was humorously added to the ballot.
> >
> > A little while later it was discovered that one Andrew Norton took it
> > upon himself to notify law enforcement of the supposed illegal hacking
> > of ballotbin.com's server. Andrew Norton of course is not a lawyer, a
> > computer security expert, or a representative of ballotbin.com. When
> > asked why he would take it upon himself to snitch out another
> > associated pirate party fella to the authorities for simply
> > investigating the security of an election system, he commended "best
> > buy some astroglide".
> >
> > Read the logs of Andrew Norton confirming that he had reported the
> > incident to the authorities: (full logs @
> > http://andrewnorton.pastebin.com/m72e92319 )
> >
> > ""K`Tetch> Speaking of, I sent an email, the other day, to the parole
> > offices in Chicago. Goign to file a report for that little mess about
> > you did with the election form.
> > <K`Tetch> best buy some astroglide, tylerknowsthis
> > ...
> > <K`Tetch> that a fucking moron that has no brain, and just wants to
> > destroy everything is going to prison for being an arsehole, yes, I
> > can sleep soundly"
> >
> > I am reminded of the various vulnerabilities found in Diebold election
> > systems years ago. The people who reported these vulnerabilities were
> > highly regarded by members of our community as fighting for democracy
> > and exposing corruption. BallotBin.com which ran the party's election
> > thanked us for reporting the vulnerability.
> >
> > So what's up with Andrew Norton snitching out other members of the
> > pirate party community ? When asked, he replied something about the
> > duty to uphold law and order (what is he a cop?)
> >
> > How far will that logic go? What happens if someone starts trading
> > URLs to various torrents on pirate party IRC channels? Will Andrew
> > start reporting people for copyright infringement?
> >
> >
> > The whole situation is very disturbing and gives me absolutely no hope
> > for the US Pirate Party. Although I support Ryan Martin as
> > administrator for the party, and I like his ideas, writings and
> > contributions to the project, there is a very bizarre right-wing
> > reactionary element to some of the people involved with the project
> > that sickens me. I do not see the US Pirate Party as being a vehicle
> > for bringing about any sort of institutional or systematic change that
> > is necessary, nor do I see it's political analysis being relevant to
> > people who are struggling in this country. I am in the process of
> > writing an article critiquing the US Pirate Party over the past few
> > years and am open to comments from the international community.
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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