[pp.int.general] Protest certain musicians?

Jeremy Morton admin at game-point.net
Thu Oct 22 18:41:35 CEST 2009


I dunno about that.  The SNP have gotten quite far with scaremongering 
BS about the English.

Best regards,
Jeremy Morton (Jez)

Eric Priezkalns wrote:
>
> On 22 Oct 2009, at 15:49, Mikko Särelä wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Philip Hunt wrote:
>>> Maybe PP could have a blacklist of musicians who've made public
>>> statements against filesharing or internet freedom, and recommend to
>>> our supporters that they don't buy from these people.
>>
>> I believe this is one of those bad ideas. One of the important advantages
>> Pirate Party has enjoyed in media and public's eye comes from the fact
>> that our opponentsdwants us disappear. Some even have stated we should be
>> illegal.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Let us show that we are the reasonable, intelligent people who have
>> actually thought about these issues and let our opponents be as media
>> stupid as they want to be - they do not understand the changes Internet
>> has brought and will fall, hard.
>>
>> "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then
>> you win." Mahatma Gandhi
>
> I completely agree with Philip, and his choice of quote is very opponent.
>
> At present, the most common but simplistic presentation of this debate
> is that pirates are selfish people we no concern for the suffering they
> will cause. Our opponents present themselves as victims who stand up for
> their moral rights. To win over every moderate and undecided person to
> our side, we have to be like Gandhi. We have to occupy the moral high
> ground. We will win by presenting ourselves as more virtuous than our
> opponents.
>
> Taking the moral high ground is not hard to do. We favour sharing. We
> favour choice. We favour freedom. The hard part is being as patient and
> disciplined as someone like Gandhi. The hard part is not giving into our
> emotions and being tempted to 'fight back' when our opponents do us
> wrong. Negative actions like telling people not to buy or listen to
> music from certain people sends out the wrong message. Our argument is
> that filesharing and internet freedom is good, even for our opponents.
> We won't persuade by threatening and pressuring people with economic
> sanctions. We will persuade if we stay true and state the arguments
> positively, time and again, for as long as it takes.
>
> Eric
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