[pp.int.general] The Pirate Micronation
edvinas.bartkus at gmail.com
Wed Sep 23 12:09:45 CEST 2009
What would be the purpose of the land? What would be main goals? why
it is not enough to work as a parties, associations, communities. It
would be like not trying to heal the current worldwide system but
creating another world which would cost money and lots of work. Would
anyone be interested in having any relation with such an object :)
Also, it looks like the independent country is necessity for some
particular activity - open a sharing network or publish information
which is forbidden. However, as far as I understand, they main goals
for the Pirates are to make effect from inside of the countries which
could change the system worldwide :)
Don't get me wrong, I am not against the idea of micronation :)
Whatsoever, Glenn, I invite you to visit Lithuania to meet the pirate
community :) It would be great to have people from foreign country
with their own experience who could share it with us. Next week we
meet for the Pirate Community association establishment. Now we will
start the official work with spreading the ideas.
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 05:25, Ryan Martin <ryan.martin at pirate-party.us> wrote:
> I'm thinking more of a supplemental membership. I envision a statement of
> the law and culture of the pirate nation, and a symbol to declare any space
> to inhabit the physical nation that it inhabits as well as the pirate nation
> that it also inhabits. In the pirate nation, for example, access to the
> internet is a natural right.
> Eventually, if a physical space could be built or founded, there would
> already be an infrastructure to put into place for governance. This would
> also allow pirate party aligned spaces, coops, and groups to indicate their
> support as well as adherence to the PP core ideals.
> Eventually I would like to see physical embassies that operate like clubs
> for anyone with pirate nation citizenship (possibly with a monthly cost) and
> provide managed shared space for hackerspaces, infoshops, food not bombs
> chapters, and any other aligned org that suffers from underrepresentation
> from their geographic governance.
> And so on.
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Glenn Kerbein
> <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us> wrote:
>> Ah, creating your own country and making it into a 'pirate nation'.
>> Sounds similar to Austrailia ;p .
>> On a serious note, though: how ideally hard would it be to find land and
>> claim it as one's own? From therin, establish friendly, international
>> trade and communication, income, etc.
>> Then what feats would it have over a foundation/fund/not-for-profit
>> based out of Lithuania? I would have thought that the roundtable
>> discussions from the PPI coreteam would be sufficient summation. :S
>> Ryan Martin wrote:
>> > Hello all. I'm the administrator for the US Pirate Party and I'd like
>> > to spit words with ya'll about a micronation. Has a micronation ever
>> > actually been established for the international pirate party movement?
>> > There was talk, way back when there was a possibility of owning
>> > Sealand, about the creation of a Pirate International micronation.
>> > Afterwards there have been many different projects and proposals that
>> > imply the creation of such a thing, such as http://embassyofpiracy.org/.
>> > I am currently touring the united states with 3 volunteers to spread the
>> > word of the US Pirate Party and more importantly, to hammer out exactly
>> > who our constituents are and what policies and stances a local
>> > (municipal) pirate candidate may take. During the tour I have run into
>> > multiple spaces and collectives that would, if approached, likely
>> > declare their spaces as outposts of the virtual pirate nation.
>> > If there is nothing concrete already laid down, I would like to be apart
>> > of the team that is working out the logistics of the creation of our
>> > micronation.
>> > Thank you
>> > --
>> > Ryan Martin
>> > Administrator
>> > United States Pirate Party
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