[pp.int.general] The Pirate Micronation

Wed Sep 23 23:03:52 CEST 2009

I also proposed such a thing.  I would say so, yes.  Having a metanation in
mind means that application really isn't limited to any type of space or
place.  Virtual, physical, non-existant... it's all applicable.  If we make
a map of all the embassies in the micronation we can go so far as to say
that anything outside our borders is our new frontier... even if it wears
cat ears (some would argue ESPECIALLY if it wears cat ears).
I'm more interested in physical spaces myself, as they provide much needed
infrastructure.  Pirate nation needs a printing facility, a network of
venues, and so on and on.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:

> On a related note, Ray proposed (about 18 months ago) a Second-life
> 'embassy'. I would imagine this is similar to what you're talking
> about in intent??
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Ryan Martin
> <ryan.martin at pirate-party.us> wrote:
> > I like it, but it's contingent on land.  I'm not looking for a land-based
> or
> > space-based micronation though, more of a membership to a club than a
> place
> > to live for now.  Here is some context for what I'm working with.
> > It started with a discussion of HackerSpace Passports, and having a
> system
> > put in place that allows individuals to become members of the global
> (those
> > that had opted in) network of hackerspaces.  Of course, I like the
> project
> > idea a lot.  It then came to me that there are a wide variety of projects
> in
> > the world, today, that could also use a passport.  Couchsurfing dot org
> > already provides a form of a passport, including positive and negative
> > feedback, that provides social capitol style feedback of a person that
> > follows.  A pirate nation passport could very well serve as a credential
> > tool for all form of shared space that fits the sociocultural glove;
> > infoshops, hackerspaces, coop recording studios, and on and on.
> > These places and spaces are, to me, our micronations' embassies to the
> > geographic nations in which they inhabit.  With enough embassies spread
> out
> > across the globe, with enough infrastructure put in place, it is possible
> > that members of the Pirate Micronation can actually manage to stay inside
> > the micronation embassy network for most of their days.
> > I've got some more concrete thoughts on it, but I wanted to make sure
> that
> > what I've got brewing didn't displace anyone elses project.  From what I
> > have read from @vinay there is no exclusion to be feared.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Vinay <hexayurt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Here's my plan for building a new nation state based on open IP law:
> >>
> >> http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/global/free-guptastan-583
> >>
> >> and, should you think I'm just plain bonkers, here's what I do for a
> >> living
> >>
> >> http://guptaoption.com/2.long_peace.php
> >>
> >> Eric, what do I need to do to officially become the UKPP shadow foreign
> >> minister?
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Vinay
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Eric Priezkalns
> >> <eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ryan, you should speak to Vinay about your aspirations.  He's not yet a
> >>> PPUK member (due to our technical limitations, not his willingness) but
> he
> >>> has a relatively advanced and sophisticated plan to create a nation.
>  You
> >>> may be able to work together for mutual benefit.
> >>> Vinay, I hope you don't mind me throwing your name into the hat like
> >>> this.  I thought you'd rather be in the loop than not.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> E
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>> From: Ryan Martin <ryan.martin at pirate-party.us>
> >>> Date: 23 September 2009 01:11:39 BST
> >>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> >>> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> >>> Subject: [pp.int.general] The Pirate Micronation
> >>> Reply-To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> >>> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> >>> Hello all.  I'm the administrator for the US Pirate Party and I'd like
> to
> >>> spit words with ya'll about a micronation.  Has a micronation ever
> actually
> >>> been established for the international pirate party movement?  There
> was
> >>> talk, way back when there was a possibility of owning Sealand, about
> the
> >>> creation of a Pirate International micronation.  Afterwards there have
> been
> >>> many different projects and proposals that imply the creation of such a
> >>> thing, such as http://embassyofpiracy.org/.
> >>> I am currently touring the united states with 3 volunteers to spread
> the
> >>> word of the US Pirate Party and more importantly, to hammer out exactly
> who
> >>> our constituents are and what policies and stances a local (municipal)
> >>> pirate candidate may take.  During the tour I have run into multiple
> spaces
> >>> and collectives that would, if approached, likely declare their spaces
> as
> >>> outposts of the virtual pirate nation.
> >>> If there is nothing concrete already laid down, I would like to be
> apart
> >>> of the team that is working out the logistics of the creation of our
> >>> micronation.
> >>> Thank you
> >>> --
> >>> Ryan Martin
> >>> Administrator
> >>> United States Pirate Party
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vinay Gupta
> >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
> >>
> >> http://bit.ly/flucode - please follow the Flu Code
> >> if you are in a flu-effected area. It protects us all.
> >>
> >> http://guptaoption.com/map - social project connection map
> >>
> >> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering
> >> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision
> >>
> >> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
> >> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt
> >> Twitter: @hexayurt http://twitter.com/hexayurt
> >> UK Cell : +44 (0) 0795 425 3533 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851
> >>
> >> "If it doesn't fit, force it."
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ryan Martin
> > Administrator
> > United States Pirate Party
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
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> >
> >
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-- 
Ryan Martin
Administrator
United States Pirate Party
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