[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

Justus Ršoemeth squig at dfpx.de
Thu Apr 22 16:52:55 CEST 2010


The question in the long run is whether that is fair.
Why does an opinion of somebody in Luxemburg counts more than that of 
someone in kenya or China?

Nevertheless, this is probably the best system for PPI. Even though it 
will be harder to change the official opinion of the bigger parties as a 
member of that party like Sweden or Germany) than in a small one, the 
official opinion of those bigger parties will have a bigger impact, no 
matter if it's one vote per country or not.

If we, in the long run, found a European party as well (for the European 
parlament) we should not apply the type of organization we chose/will 
choose for PPI though (which makes sense, as the European party would, 
even though it serves the same long-term goal in the same movement, 
employ very different methods than PPI and also sets different 
objectives). While it made sense for the EC to put a 'one vote for each 
country' policy in place. Today this policy is outdated however, a vote 
for the European parlament cast in Germany is much less valuable than 
one cast in Sweden (or Luxemburg or Malta).
A PP.EU shouldtake that into account. PPI should not, or at least not 
until we have free worldwide elections for the UN (or a similair 
institution).

On the other hand it was very important to establish a system where PPI 
can not dominate a singel party on it's stance in politics (just imagine 
the Danish and Finnish pirate parties ganging up to tell the Swedish 
party on what to do. That is basically what could be happening in the 
european commission.


Cheers
Justus

On 22.04.10 16:26, Alexander Bock wrote:
> Am 22.04.2010 um 15:39 schrieb Gregory Engels:
>
>    
>> On 21.04.2010, at 19:51, Alex wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> i agree. 1 vote per country makes no sense. and it also implies no
>>> flexibility whatsoever.
>>> what if 1 country has more than 1 party?
>>>        
>> in the current statutes there can be only one Ordinary Member
>> per country, and if there are more than one party in a country,
>> they can form a federation and join together. They still will be
>> sharing a single vote.
>>      
> I, too, don't see how this is a problem. To me this all seems very similar to the UN.
>
> Alex
>
>
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