[pp.int.general] SHOCKING NEWS: Accused WikiLeaks ally is being tortured!

[Andrew Norton]

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On 12/17/2010 5:45 PM, Marcus Kesler wrote:
> One thing that we need to keep in mind is that PFC Manning is not facing
> trial in the same court as all other Americans. He is facing trial in
> Military Court, and as such the rules are different from what most of us
> are used to. Which does not justify the conditions of his current
> treatment of course.

Exactly, from what I've read, Rules for Court Martial 707 says a trial
should be within 120 days.

> 
> On 12/17/2010 4:42 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> I suggested to them that they change the demand of their petition.
>> Trials in the US take time, and I expect that the government is
>> preparing the prosecution.  So the US has an easy response to this
>> petition: "We are giving him a trial, just wait and see."

In a civilian trial, under state+federal laws, yes. Under the UCMJ,
that's not an option. One thing that's complicating it is that, if I
understand RCM's and JAG manuals right, there are 3 jobs in this.
There's an initial investigation, a prosecution, and a defense, and JAG
officers do all 3. I'm also told that often the officers that do the
invesitgation, also tend to be either then prosecute or defend (or both)

I've put a call in to an old aquintance of mine (he was an Army MP
officer I used to play Delta Force 2/LW with online 8-9 years ago, see
if he's still in the military and get some facts out of him about
procedures)

>>
>> However, that is no excuse for keeping Manning in such inhumane
>> conditions.  It is normal in the US for the accused to get bail.  They
>> should offer Bradley Manning bail.

There is no bail in the military. If it's a minor crime, they're kept
with their unit, major one it's pre-trial confinement. That's the
military life.

>>
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