[pp.int.general] mandatory identification in Internet shops?

Jasper Mokkink japser10 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 14 11:28:14 CET 2010


It indeed is frightening for all of us, nowadays people don't realise how
important privacy is, especially in the Netherlands. I think we all agree
something has to change, that's why PPNL has to be reorganized and with a
great hurry. Unfortunately the people from PPNL aren't that active. :(

2010/2/12 Reinier Bakels <r.bakels at planet.nl>

>  Yesterday I wanted to use Internet in a (state) university library. They
> asked me for my ID. Reason: computers had been used to sent threat mails,
> and the the police asked who had used the computer. And the library
> personnel said that nowadays you have to indentify yourself in any Internet
> shop - so they were no exception.
>
> Is that true? In my home country (Netherlands) I hardly ever use Internet
> shops services.
>
> I just made a long trip in Asia and used many internet shops there - and
> nobody ever asked for my ID. Yes, hotels ask your passport, but often I used
> Internet shops outside my hotel (if they are cheaper).
>
> It seems this is yet another anti-privacy measure that hurts only honest
> citizen. If I really would like to send threat mails, I still have ample
> opportinities (e.g. using snail mail). And it shows that the police is the
> single most serious threat to privacy. Collecting privacy-violating data is
> one thing, but a police that believes it "naturally" has access to
> *everything* really frightens me.
>
> reinier
>
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