[pp.int.general] The IIPA Reports

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at contralaguerra.org
Tue Mar 2 14:32:51 CET 2010

Hi all,

    IP is a too confusing acronym. We (IT people) used it for IP-address
for decades. Now we use it for Intellectual Property as well, however, I
do agree with Patrick that Immaterial Property might be the meaning that
best fits. At least is the term used by most liberal and libertarian
Italian philosophers.

    Toni Negri had been working on this issue as well, and in one of his
conferences I learned that some centuries ago, we had common lands and
goods in every society, but with time and regulations, nowadays, almost
everything material is private.

    The ideas are the last frontier, the last thing to sell, nothing
else remains. We have many -legal- ways to privatize it, name it
patents, name  it copyright, they are only different sides of the same
coin: Immaterial Goods Property.

    Maybe the point is to make a proper pedagogy on this issue, as it's
the common issue behind most of our principles. Everything else which we
fight (i.e. lack of freedom and control on your information) is just a
method for tracking and controlling this IGP fad.

    If Plato was still between us, he would be really scared of this
infinite avarice, privatizing something that exists on its own it's like
patenting a plant. No artist breaks all rules completely, you always
base upon a common heritage. In the scientific world, real leaps occur
less than twice in a century (Newton, Galileo-Kepler, Gauss,
Einstein...). Real innovators don't need a patent to get their credit
back, figure out Einstein patenting relativity!



En/na Valentin Villenave ha escrit:
> 2010/3/2 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>:
>> It would be useful to make such a list for copyright.  And another
>> list for patents.  I think these two lists would not be similar.
> There's at least one item that could go in both lists, if I'm not
> mistaken: governments, organizations, ACTA and the like do aim to
> fight *both* copyright violations and patent violations as
> "counterfeiting" offences, don't they?
> Today I've been talking with a colleague of Mr. Engström, and I found
> myself a bit annoyed when he begun explaining, in one single sentence,
> how important it was to fight the ACTA, to change pharmaceutical
> patents, and to find a way for the authors/musicians/artists to make a
> living. On one hand, he was unarguably right, on the other hand he was
> mixing up so many different things that in the end it hardly made any
> sense...
> Cheers,
> Valentin
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