[pp.int.general] PPi ask Anonymous to stop Payback

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Man, let me be raw. This topic is hilarious.

Can I see that law? I can't simply believe you.


Kenneth

Al 24/11/10 00:47, En/na Marcus Kesler ha escrit:
> And that is pretty much what we do. You might call it bullshit, and if
> you are part of a Pirate Party in a country that does not have such
> stupid regulations I congratulate and envy you.
>
> But the fact is this: Support criminal activity in the United States as
> a political party, and you are no longer a political party. No way
> around that, that is a simple reality of the political rules in this
> country.
>
> USPP lives with that reality.
> Pirate Party of Oklahoma lives with that reality.
>
> We cannot condone any criminal activity, no matter how small.
> We cannot condone civil disobedience, no matter how stupid the rules
> that prohibit them.
>
> The Pirate Party of Oklahoma, and I assume the United States Pirate
> Party, is not asking for the blessing of the PPI for our activities such
> as issuing that letter. At times we have to release statements like that
> to make it very clear that we are operating on the right side of the
> law, even if that law is stupid and in our opinion wrong. It's not about
> pissing off Anon, or PPI, or anybody else; it's about being able to
> continue operation as a political party.
>
> Marcus Kesler
> Pirate Party of Oklahoma
>
> On 11/23/2010 4:45 PM, Kenneth Peiruza wrote:
>    
>> This argument is bullshit.
>>
>> If PP-US is gonna loose the political party status because they don't
>> condemn a crime, they will be condemning crimes 24x7.
>>
>>
>> Al 23/11/10 21:45, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
>>      
>>> On 23.11.10 16:04, Gabriel Serrano wrote:
>>>        
>>>> I don't understand why UK-PP and USA-Oklahoma-PP keep asking
>>>> Anonymous to stop Ddos. Did any other Party in any country do the
>>>> same? Why should we have any influence on Anonymous?
>>>>          
>>> As far as I understand it it is because the PPUS wants to make clear
>>> that they don't have anything to do with illegal activities.
>>> We should just accept that the laws concerning parties (USPP could
>>> lose the status of a political party were it to endorse illegal
>>> activities) as well as the whole attitude the respective societies
>>> have towards hackers are different in the Anglician world compared to
>>> Central and Southern Europe. (The CCC as an association by and mainly
>>> for hackers is respected as a source of knowledge and expertese by the
>>> conservative German government; the EFF for example, which has nothing
>>> to do with hackers, could only dream of such a position.)
>>> In the end it's a PR stunt by the pirate parties involved to address
>>> domestic problems of legitimacy and legality, and should be handled as
>>> such. It should be made clear that neither the PPI nor many respective
>>> PPs don't share that opinion, and that's it.
>>> Cheers
>>> -J
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