[pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack

[Marcus Kesler]

I do believe that the question was about the DDoS attack against Wikileaks, not the actual leak.

Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>AND Assange is not a citizen of the U.S.
>On Nov 29, 2010 2:56 AM, "Jay Emerson" <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Leak didn't happen in the U.S.
>> On Nov 29, 2010 12:46 AM, "Andrew Norton" <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
>>>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
>>>
>>> *facepalm* Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... US educational standards!
>>>
>>> ACTIONS are legal, or illegal. That's what laws are, a list of actions
>>> and the situations in which they are "illegal" An illegal act, is ALWAYS
>>> an illegal act.
>>>
>>> Now, a PERSON can be guilty or innocent. Specifically, they are guilty
>>> or innocent of an ACTION. In this sort of discussion, and specifically
>>> with the usage of the phrase you have mentioned, the action is an
>>> illegal action. In fact, courts (in the U.S., since you made that
>>> distinction) go out of their way to avoid touching the question of an
>>> action's defined legality or illegality.
>>>
>>> If you don't understand (and I guess Jay doesn't, else he wouldn't have
>>> posted what he did)
>>> Taking some random child is kidnap, and is illegal. Forcing that child
>>> to have sex with you is illegal. Killing the child afterwards is
>>> illegal. Those actions are all defined as illegal.
>>>
>>> Now...
>>> Did Glenn Beck rape and kill a young girl in 1990?
>>> The answer is, even if he did, he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
>>>
>>> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
>>> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
>>> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
>>> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
>>>
>>> Of course, I can't blame Jay for not knowing the basic difference
>>> between actions and people, because i think he (proudly[1]) dropped out
>>> of high school before taking the class that explained this basic fact.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 28, 2010 4:38 PM, "lilo" <al3lilo at autistici.org
>>>> <mailto:al3lilo at autistici.org>> wrote:
>>>> http://wlcentral.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> whats about legal or not legal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> l.
>>>>
>>>>
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