[pp.int.general] The Venus project?

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Fri Aug 5 20:21:13 CEST 2011


You should watch the three Zeitgeist films (free downloads). They
borrow a lot from Fresco's ideas and the Venus project.

I think the analysis of the current economic and (geo)political
panorama is mostly correct. In a nutshell, modern economy is a giant
Ponzi scam, someday soon the shit will hit the fan (perhaps that day
is now), war makes money, and politics is driven by economy (well,
also Marx said that) so also politics is a Ponzi scam.

But the proposed solutions are too centralized for my taste, I smell a
type of benevolent authoritarianism that I prefer to keep away from.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Pat Maechler aka Valio <pirate at valio.ch> wrote:
> A bit of a naive question maybe:
> I was just becoming aware of the writings by Jacque Fresco / the Venus
> project, but won't have the time to read up on it.
> Has anyone already explored this in depth yet and thought about parts
> that would be clearly contradicting or clearly go along with the aims
> of the pirate movement?
> Up to now I just found a discussion on the PPUK forum
> http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=317
>
> Yes, there are allegations with R. Meadows concerning fishy behaviour;
> that's not what I'm interested (it does not relate to the ideas),
> just as I'm not interested in any trolling/flaming that does not
> address anything substantial on a rational level to the subject (i.e.
> whether you consider it a great or fucking stupid idea overall).
> I'm looking forward in hope of a fruitful discussion.
>
> regards
> -pat
> ____________________________________________________
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>


More information about the pp.international.general mailing list