[pp.int.general] Filing charges against the board of PPI regarding the next GA Location.

Andrew Norton ktetch at gmail.com
Tue Dec 20 23:44:36 CET 2011


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There is a problem though, Samir.

You're quite right we had issues over the location LAST time as well,
but they weren't the only issues. Another issue was the constitution of
the very body you're now appealing to. A Body made up of people who were
physically present last time, because of the less-than-open machinations
of the then-board. So if you expect a court, which was packed to be
entirely Euro-centric by it's election methods, to suddenly turn around
and want to host the next meeting OUTSIDE Europe. What's the benefit for
them? It might mean they can't go, and so would have to participate as
3rd class citizens (if they could participate at all, since it was
absolutely PATHETIC at best last time)

PPI is a joke these days. After the last meeting, there were SEVEN
members of the board. I just checked the list of members about 20
minutes ago, and there's now FOUR. Two have gone in the last month
(including one of the co-chairs!) with no notice given to anyone at all.
So much for transparency.

PPI died about 18 months ago, under it's own bureaucratic inertia, and
the self-interests of it's so-called 'officers'. What was supposed to be
a way of communicating and assisting parties, has turned into a display
of e-peen where nothing gets done, and the only communication methods
that actually work, are the ones outside the control of PPI. Says it all
really.

PPI Could be saved, but it will require people who are actually
committed TO PPI and not to their own countries, with PPI either an
afterthought, or a way to boost their own importance nationally.

Andrew Norton
Former PPI Head,
Former USPP Chairman
UK and Georgia(US) Pirate Party Member (and speaking on behalf of neither)


On 12/20/2011 5:19 PM, Samir Allioui wrote:
> Dear Pirates,
> 
> 
> Today the board had the opportunity and obligation to vote for the
> location of the next General Assembly.
> 
> As you can read here: http://ppi.piratenpad.de/agenda-2011-12-20?
> 
> 
> Candidates where;
> 
> 
> - The Pirate Party of the Czech Republic.
> 
> - The Pirate Party of Russia.
> 
> - The Pirate Party of Tunisia
> 
> 
> Four board members voted.
> 
> 
> - Thomas Gaul - member of the Pirate Party of Germany.
> 
> - Lola Voronina - member of the Pirate Party of Russia, living in
> Prague, the Czech Republic.
> 
> - Patrick Maechler - member of the Pirate Party of Switzerland.
> 
> - Samir Allioui - member of the Pirate Party of the Netherlands.
> 
> 
> So far the Pirate Party of Austria, Sweden, Finland, Germany, and
> Belgium had the honor of hosting a PPI General Assembly.
> 
> The members of PPI decided to let all parties have the honor to host in
> turns.
> 
> PPI members also agreed upon having the next PPI general assembly
> outside of Europe.
> 
> These choices where made democratically and with concencus.
> 
> 
> Not only did we have the last GA in Europe, but also in a country who
> held it once before already.
> 
> This due to corruption within PPI. Obviously, this pissed off a lot of
> pirate parties. 
> 
> Especially considering the fact that they already where pissed off due
> to the Brussels Conference failure which was "organized" by the same
> people who shifted the one afterwards to Germany.
> 
> 
> Today however, PPI chose to have the next GA in Prague, in the center of
> Europe.
> 
> Other options where Russia, and Tunisia.
> 
> Considering the exact location of the Russian city cited, only Tunisia
> was a non european option.
> 
> 
> Herefore, i voted for Tunisia, however the rest of the board has voted
> for Prague against the will of the members of PPI.
> 
> I ask the board of arbitration to declare this vote invalid and corrupt.
> 
> 
> Furthermore, i ask the overseas Pirate Parties to file formal complaints
> to the board, and the COA.
> 
> If the COA does not research this affair, i have no option but to resign
> from my post as president of PPI.
> 
> As a finishing note i'd like to add that it is better to boycott, then
> that it is to leave PPI.
> 
> After all, when all good people leave, the bad people gain majority -
> allowing corruption such as this to perpetuate.
> 
> So please do not abandon your PPI membership. ( As some have done in the
> past for the very same reason. )
> 
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> 
> Samir Allioui
> 
> 
> 
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Andrew Norton
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