[pp.int.general] Old woman ****ed by copyright lobby - Can we do something?
Martin Rieth
martin.rieth at piratenpartei-goettingen.de
Thu Dec 29 13:36:52 CET 2011
Moin Moin Antior, *,
since this is a german-law-event i include links with a german text:
the sentence of the court: http://openjur.de/u/257965.html
http://www.wbs-law.de/abmahnung-filesharing/kein-computer-kein-wlan-trotzdem-muss-rentnerin-abmahnkosten-wegen-filesharing-tragen-17951/
http://www.damm-legal.de/ag-muenchen-filesharing-verurteilung-zum-schadensersatz-auch-dann-wenn-der-anschlussinhaber-gar-keinen-computer-besitzt
It seems that the "in dubio pro reo" is not working or not accepted as
law anymore in all of these types of cases.
I am willing to follow up to this topic and find a german pirate-party
group (ie: near munich), which will make some press-relevant statements
or even more ...
It seems to me that this person in question made the mistake of signing
a paper which declares her being guilty, which is the base of all
problems.
if anyone pirate with more time and interest is reading this, i am
willing to leave it in any other german-language-capable hands, just
answer here. ,-)
I say 42, Martin Rieth
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Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2011 - Pirate Parties International -- General Talk :
> Hello pirates from the world,
> http://torrentfreak.com/retired-computerless-woman-fined-for-pirating-hooligan-movie-111222/
> I just ran into this article, which basically tells of how an old
> woman in Germany has to pay 650 euros for 'copyright infringement',
> while she didn't even have a computer at the time this supposedly
> happened. The judge ruled in favour of the copyright lobby. Apparently
> in Germany you're guilty if *you've ever in the past used a certain
> IP* that has been used for 'copyright infringement'.
> It never seizes to amaze me how heartless these copyright guys get. I
> don't know if this happens a lot in Germany, but this is such a sad
> case that I'm wondering if we should help this woman pay her fine. If
> pirates everywhere donate a small amount that shouldn't be too hard.
> Additionally it shows the world that the Pirate Parties DO have a heart.
> However, I would like to ask the German Piratenpartei first what they
> think of this, and if they like this idea, I would like to ask them to
> take the lead in this small project, simply because it will be easiest for them to reach this woman.
> Thank you,
> Antior
Ich sach 42, Martin
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