[pp.int.general] Agora Voting System for a Liquid Democracy at FOSDEM

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Hi Eduardo,

We do already do it. That is the way how Pirata.cat works in anything
not related to the Pirate Movement.

Right now we are using a GPL Drupal module developed by Ubuntu, named
"Ideatorrent". It doesn't ensure all that beautiful checks, but well, we
prefered to start using something free and nice to evaluate how does it
work and what does it lack.

We have contacted one of the biggest experts in participation, direct
and liquid democracy of the state, a woman that just came back from
Rome, and well, we expect to use her know-how + our feedback on
Ideatorrent to do a nice RFP with technical and non technical
specifications.

IMO it would be nice if Pirata-es finally decides to add the
direct/liquid democracy to its statutes, to start working together with
PDI and Pirata.cat.

Please Eduardo, feel free to contact us at partit at pirata.cat , so at
least Pirata.cat and PDI can start working together in these issues.

Right now, our biggest issues with Ideatorrent are: secrecy of vote and
territorial segmentation, so the same platform can be used in
decision-making at cities.

And this is why the president of PDI in Catalonia is one of our members
and was in our lists in the past election :D

Regards,

Kenneth

On 19/01/11 22:48, Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:
>>    Our aim is to use Electronic Voting for all the votings held in the
>>    parliament.
>>
>> Votes in parliament are not anonymous, so the usual fundamental
>> problems of digital voting do not arise.
> 
> Hello Richard:
> 
> Well the idea is that the elected members of parliament act as a proxy
> for the people voting via Internet. For example, let's say PDI has 3
> members in the parliament and there's a voting about the Sinde-Biden
> law. If via Internet 62% say YES and 38% NO, then 2 of the MEPs would
> vote YEs and one NO. This means you need to change no law as it is
> strictly just the way the political party decides the vote. Read more
> about it in PDI webpage [1] if you are interested.
> 
> What about a system for new propossals to be voted on the parliament?
> Well, at least in Spain we need 15 MEPs for that so that's not a
> problem just yet. But I have my ideas about how this could work too
> [2].
> 
> Regards,
>    Eduardo.
> --
> Note: I know the links I just gave are in spanish, but I also happen
> to know that RMS knows spanish =)
> --
> [1] http://www.partidodeinternet.es
> [2] http://partidodeinternet.es/foro/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=648&p=3764
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