[pp.int.general] Online voting versus online discussion

Zbigniew Łukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Sun Dec 9 15:29:19 CET 2012


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Mozart Olbrycht-Palmer
<mozart.palmer at pp-international.net> wrote:
> Many of us do actually keep Pirate-related blogs.
>
>
> On 09/12/2012, at 8:04 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote:
>
>> Short version:
>>
>> online voting - no
>>
>> (http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2012/10/155536-internet-voting-in-the-us/fulltext)
>>
>> online discussion - yes
>>
>> Longer version:
>>
>> Comming from the Open Source world I am surprised by the scarcity of
>> international disscussion in the Pirate Movement.  This list and the
>> PirateTimes are perhaps the only places where the international pirate
>> topics are discussed.  This is not enough - if that was an Open Source
>> project you'd have many individual blogs and many more mailing lists
>> where people would discuss stuff from many angles and also in more
>> personal less formal ways.
>>
>> I have the feeling that all that discussion that does not happen
>> online is then crammed into the General Assemblies.  In my opinion GAs
>> should be just a matter of recording the consensus on matters that
>> would be exhaustingly discussed online.  That is not to say that
>> discussion would be forbidden - only that we should try to avoid it.
>>
>> Online voting is a can of worms - it can probably work well for
>> non-secret voting - but to get it right is much more difficult than it
>> seems.  Especially in the context of international negotiations we
>> cannot put so much faith in the  administators of the system.  And
>> please read the paper linked above.
>> Of course discussion systems are subject of similar concerns - but it
>> does not need to be so centralized - and beside that it would be
>> subject to the supervision of the safe, in person, GA.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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