[pp.int.general] International PP Press Service

Sat Jan 14 14:16:10 CET 2012

Moin, thanks for your input.

I think it would be better to have a person be responsible for it, (and
given that person the ability to recruit more people) than one pirate party
and rotating it every time. If you did not want another person to learn
everything again every 2 weeks you'd need to compile some basic information
in a wiki anyways, and if you rotate it you either need volunteers or need
to force PPs to do it, so I don't see that system working too well. In
light of that I thought that starting monthly may be better than biweekly,
but if the team is big enough, or the PPs volunteer enough information I
don't see a problem with moving it to biweekly from the start. I also think
that the growth potential is bigger if you have a team doing it a bit more
independently from other duties they may have in their PP, like other
translating the whole thing or putting forward a podcast.
Also, I doubt that some smaller parties can fill an A4 every fortnight with
news, while I have no doubt Sweden or Germany could fill 10 A4s each.

If I were to organize it I would try to just email every PP (I guess
updating a list of email addresses of the persons responsible for that
alone would be quite a task every month) reminding them that they could
volunteer a story or an update for every 'issue' (for want of a better
word), and then compile that. But you could also do interviews, or feature
how-tos.

In short, I think if we do it as Mozart describes it is too dependent on
parties volunteering and lacks a responsible person, and is quite limited
in its growth potential. As a kind of distant goal I could see a new
organization like Flaschenpost does it in Germany, but for what is going on
in each and every PP. I do think we have the skills and the manpower for
that.

We are quite good with translating videos and documents that are motivating
or good baseworks for ideological development, and we are very good with
spreading information on things that are relevant internationally (and a
lot of the things we are fighting for/against are). Let's try to get it to
the next level and create a feeling of belonging together!

Justus

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Pat Maechler aka Valio <pirate at valio.ch>wrote:

> ack; you're probably right with that
> hardly anyone is willing do that work more than once if it would be
> just for the sake of being troll-ish or similar
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Mozart
> <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> > I don't think it has to be that complicated and official. It's merely
> just a
> > heads up to each party that says "this is what we're up to." Probably the
> > press officer would take responsibility (or the party could just delegate
> > one person to do the write up for that fortnight). Are Pirate Parties
> > worldwide that childish as to have big disagreements over what is
> > essentially an internal bulletin? All parties can volunteer: it's not
> like
> > anything is gained from doing it except extra work. The individual
> parties
> > would be responsible for deciding who did the writing or compiling (or
> even
> > individuals could just say "yeah, I'll do it." As I said, there's no
> gain to
> > be got.
> >
> > - Mozart.
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/2012, at 9:29 PM, Pat Mächler wrote:
> >
> > So you would rather opt for a maximum participation-no safeguard
> solution?
> > Not that I would fight that; I just ask; of course one also has to
> > accept the possible problems that may come with it.
> >
> > Possible safeguards which I did consider
> > 1) a fixed set of parties that are eligible to volunteer or
> > 2) people (i.e. press officers) that are officially appointed by
> > national parties or
> > 3) someone that is coordinating the whole process overall (e.g.
> > appointed by PPI GA or board).
> >
> > -pat
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Mozart
> > <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au> wrote:
> >
> > Why not a fortnightly publication with a half an A4 page of information
> from
> >
> > each Pirate Party? Each fortnight a party could volunteer to format, edit
> >
> > and compile it as a PDF and maybe it could be hosted on PPI or
> something? It
> >
> > wouldn't be an "official publication," more an internal update, so it
> >
> > wouldn't need to be too formal and professional. As long as it was neat.
> >
> >
> > – Mozart (PPAU)
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/2012, at 11:01 AM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ahoi Pirates
> >
> >
> > I'll try to take this into my hands after my thesis, so I might as well
> >
> > start the brainstorming now.
> >
> >
> > As written in the other mail (on PPDE reaching 20k+ members) it might be
> a
> >
> > good idea to start an information service about what is going on in the
> >
> > world of the pirate parties. I see this as a way of facilitating news
> across
> >
> > language barriers (where they seem to stop way too often nowadays) about
> >
> > what is going on in each and every pirate party, a way for know-how to
> get
> >
> > dispersed, to invite to assemblies and meetings and the likes. The idea
> is
> >
> > basically to strengthen the feeling that the pirate party movement is an
> >
> > international community, and can then maybe grow to be more than the
> sums of
> >
> > it's part. In light of a European election coming up in 2014 that may be
> a
> >
> > good idea.
> >
> >
> > I am thinking of a newsletter written monthly for now in the PPI list,
> and
> >
> > maybe published on a blog (or the PPI website if it is deemed important
> >
> > enough), giving information on day to day political work of different
> pirate
> >
> > parties, from a local council in some backwater town in Germany to the
> >
> > struggles of pirate parties in Russia, Slowenia, Brazil, Ohio or Marocco
> to
> >
> > get registered as a nation-/statewide party. At the moment it is quite
> hard
> >
> > to come by information about what is going on in the different national
> >
> > parties if you don't speak the language, and the idea is to provide a
> place
> >
> > where that is happening in English.
> >
> >
> > Once that is running and we have a few contributors actively fanning out
> >
> > through the Internetz to get information on the different parties, and
> >
> > people like it well enough, we could go to publishing more frequently,
> >
> > translating into other languages, maybe even hosting a podcast, and the
> >
> > likes, but that's for the future to see. I think a newsletter every month
> >
> > with stories from 5 to 8 pirate parties is doable.
> >
> >
> > I do like the name 'Message in a Bottle' the German PP-affiliated news
> >
> > service has, in English it sounds even better imo. So that would be my
> idea
> >
> > for a name, but I am up for other ideas. When I get bored over my thesis
> >
> > over the following weeks I'll try to spread the information a bit
> further.
> >
> > For now I am interested in your input.
> >
> >
> > So to summarize: What do you think about the idea of having a newsletter
> >
> > (that may grow into a news service with blog and so on) in English about
> >
> > what is going on in the different pirate parties. Do you think this is a
> >
> > good tool to foster something like an international community, to support
> >
> > PPI and PWB so to say? Would you be willing to maybe come up with an
> article
> >
> > every other month to help the service about what is going on in your PP?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Justus
> >
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Mozart Palmer
> >
> > Head of Media Relations
> >
> > Pirate Party Australia
> >
> > Ph: 0415 152 765
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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