[pp.int.general] Belgium and the lack of democracy

[Marko Mitrovic]

Sounds pretty much like Serbia, but we don't even have option for "deputee"
to collect signatures.

Best of luck in election race, all we can do is spread the word on the
Intetnet. Arrr arrr! :)
On Jul 19, 2012 9:27 AM, "nicolas boucher" <nicolas.boucher73 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> please help the belgian pirates to put pressure on our government for the
> next elections in october. For the moment we do not have the tools to even
> be able to collect signatures.
>
> Belgium and the lack of democracy
>
>  « Particracy » is often used to comment the belgian political system.
> That word is used on a pejorative way and the elected persons don't like to
> hear that word. Unfortunately we have again an exemple of that way of
> defending the interest of the old belgian parties.
>
>  To be allowed to be on the lists for the next elections in octobre there
> are procedures to follow. One of them, if you don't have any deputee, is to
> collect signatures. There are two possibilities. Entering the political
> arena *helped* by other parties. Or trough another way : the citizens. I
> consider that way much more legitime.
>
>  As a defender of the direct democraty, this second solution looks much
> more fair, more legitime. We need to have the approval of the other
> citizens to be on the lists. What can be more democratic ? If the
> potentially elected person do not manage to be supported by people, how
> could he have voices ? Would it be useful to be on the lists ?
>
>  It's easier to have signatures from deputees ? True. But is that not
> entering in the political game that I do not agree with ? Is it not be *
> redevable* for a service ? Above all what would be the official political
> line of the other parties ? And how much would it cost later ?
>
>  In beautiful Belgium, the second solution is way from easy. Without
> spotting anyone I consider this mission as almost impossible. I'm not
> speaking about the fact of finding a hundred of persons ready to support a
> new candidate in town, no.
>
>  I'm speaking about the fact that the official organization of the
> elections did not put the official paper for the provincial elections
> online ! We are at 58 days of the deadline and that sheet simply does not
> exist ! The official administration of this country conscientiously prevent
> the arrival of new parties by simply blocking the access.
>
>  I have a hangover when I realize that this way of working still exists in
> my country in 2012. I'm disgusted that only one media has relayed the
> information, l'avenir<http://www.lavenir.net/article/detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120717_00182757>.
> It's not only for the pirates but for every single new organization who
> want to take part in these elections ! We are pushed away by the big
> parties. We are fighting for participative democracy. We want to meet the
> citizens !
>
>  Without speaking of a conspiration of victimise ourselves I have to
> underline that the fight will be hard. But it's not a big deal. Because
> behind every single computer there are revolted citizens. Traditional
> medias are dumb ? Let's make a buzz on internet. The world has to know.
>
>  Pirates or non pirates if you are a democrate we need you ! Let the world
> know our situation. It's time to show the autorithies taht we are hundreds,
> thousands ready to tell that we know what's happening.
>
>  We want democracy. We don't want this locking of the autorithies
> anymore. We want the access to direct democracy. We want to show that
> another way to enter the elections does exist. We will cross the oceans,
> the seven seas and even come back from the end of sea.
>
>  Because in our souls we are all pirates ! So rise the sailings, the
> Jolly Roger. Starboard : Twitter. Portside : Facebook ! It's time to fight
> to cross the boarder that the ships of his Majesty does not want to see us
> pass. But we will pass. Whatever happens we will pass.
>
> If you are on twitter please share with #hellopaul. You can find that
> funny way of communication here<http://dreamsandmoods.blogspot.be/2012/07/hellopaul.html>.
>
>
>  À l'abordaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage !
>
>  The minister in charge of that office is Paul Furlan. @Paul_Furlan<https://twitter.com/Paul_Furlan>
>  You can find all the information on the elections in French on the
> belgian official website. Here <http://elections2012.wallonie.be/>.
>  And the media that outspotted the information in French. Here<http://www.lavenir.net/article/detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120717_00182757>
> .
>
>
> http://dreamsandmoods.blogspot.be/2012/07/belgium-and-lack-of-democracy.html
>
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