[pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16 years away

[Daniel Riaño]

2012/7/24 Philip Hunt <cabalamat at gmail.com>:
> On 23 July 2012 14:04, Dario <i at dario.im> wrote:
>> Agreed. Next question: what we can do from a pirate POV without being a
>> Green spin-off?
>
> One way where Pirates differe from Greens is that there is an
> undercurrent of anti-science, anti-technology sentiment in many green
> parties, which doesn't exist in Pirate parties.
>
> So I think our approach to solving the climate change problem should
> be a science-based one.

100% agreed, and I think this will make pirates disagree with most
ecologists (but not all of them; I am thinking of guys like Patrick
Moore, and James Lovelock but oh my, how they chased the old
Moore...), , specially when we arrive at the point of nuclear energy
and again when we arrive at the issue of transgenics.

So I think pirates and ecologists can be good travel fellows, but many
ecologists will be ready to walk with us only a part of the walk.
There's no serious risk we are to be taken as a spinoff of the greens,
I think.

As for the reality of climate change, I'm pretty sure if there were
some economic advantage in denying the existence of the Higgs Boson,
there would already be a party, either in the right or the left,
denying it. I am not saying that the Standard Model must be true; I'm
only saying that with such complex scientific questions like climate
change as with the Standard Model, involving more scientific
specialities and data processing than one individual is able to digest
in one lifetime to fully understand every important issue, specially
if you are making a life in another field of knowledge, most of us are
bound to accept (critically, skeptically, you name it) the general
scientific consensus.


>
> The two biggest carbon emitters are China and the USA, and
> realistically it is unlikely that either country will go out of its
> way to reduce its emissions. They will only do so if it is in their
> short term economic interests to do so.
>
> So, how to make it in their short term economic interests? If solar
> panels were cheaper, then everyonew would use them as one of the major
> ways to produce electricity. Therefore we should promote solar panel
> research.
>
> Another technology we could promote is carbon capture, e.g. by
> investigating seeding the oceans with iron to promote the growth of
> phytoplankton. (see for example
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18885083>)
>
>
> --
> Phil Hunt, <cabalamat at gmail.com>
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