[pp.int.general] very positive essay on Pirate Party here:

Hank Pellissier hankpellissier at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 24 12:00:02 CEST 2012 

USA think tank IEET publishes another positive essay on the Pirate Party

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/nicholas20120724



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: the belgian pirate party needs your help (nicolas boucher)
   2. Re: Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is    16    years away
      (Kenneth Peiruza)
   3. Re: Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16    years away
      (Jos? Manuel Goig)


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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:55:49 +0200
From: nicolas boucher <nicolas.boucher73 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] the belgian pirate party needs your help
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Maybe both. The main thing is even different: they know now that there are
pirats in Belgium:)

2012/7/21 Justus R?meth <squig at dfpx.de>

> Awesome! Care to link the media, or was it just offline?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, nicolas boucher <
> nicolas.boucher73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Josef
>>
>> I note every idea for the next time. We had a lot of help from the german
>> pirats on twitter and finally got a room in a famous media.
>> This morning at 7:30 we had the document!
>>
>> So we can run for the elections:)
>>
>> Nico
>>
>> 2012/7/19 Josef Ohlsson Collentine <international at piratpartiet.se>
>>
>>> Seems like a good opportunity of getting PR and help from other
>>> potential parties. My suggestion is to take inspiration from the CAT
>>> pirates and mix it with your #hellopaul campaigning.
>>>
>>> Set it up as a separate campaign on a new website. This enables other
>>> parties to take part even if you should make sure it's very clear that the
>>> pirate party is the people creating and driving this campaign. Contact
>>> other parties in same situation and make sure they get on board. Write to
>>> newspapers about the unfairness and campaign, distribute fliers about
>>> campaign in city centers. On campaign website: add a #hellopaul counter,
>>> post a stream of tweets, have a list of favorites etc.
>>>
>>> YoAvalo was successful because of the ability for other parties in same
>>> situation to take part. Easy to point followers of other parties to a
>>> seperate campaign site and still clear that the pirate party was the
>>> leaders and the ones with most initiative and drive.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> /josef
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:51:37 +0200
>>>> From: nicolas boucher <nicolas.boucher73 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>>>>         <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] the belgian pirate party needs your help
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>>>>
>>>> dario at pirata.cat
>>>>
>>>> In fact, we will probably have enough signatures. The biggest problem is
>>>> that the official paper is not online. And we need to let the world know
>>>> about it.
>>>>
>>>> The #hellopaul hashtag was number one in Germany with the help of the
>>>> pirates. And lot of people wrote to @Paul_Furlan. But still no answer
>>>> nor
>>>> buzz trough the medias.
>>>>
>>>> We will carry on working hard to get our place on the lists.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway all the tips are welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Nico
>>>>
>>>> 2012/7/19 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi there,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm on holidays, backpacking in SE-Asia until 5th of august. My
>>>> internet
>>>> > connecions suck :/ Dario Casta?e ( dario at pirata.cat ) can help you
>>>> wih
>>>>
>>>> > this, however it's just a site explaining the situation and a
>>>> web-form to
>>>> > gather the contact info.
>>>> >
>>>> > We ran the campaign with just 4 volunteers (Soledad Toledo, David
>>>> Arcos,
>>>> > Dario and me). I guess you can do pretty the same. I'll be glad to
>>>> give you
>>>> > some tips and advice. 4 volunteers got 55% of the total ammount of
>>>> > signatures required, and moreover, anyone saw the pirates as the ones
>>>> > organizing quickly to fight against this, and opening it to other
>>>> parties
>>>> > (nice guys + fair play, somehing incredible in Spanish politics).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Salut!
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *International Contact for PPSE*
>>> Contact me for any questions/concerns or if you need to get hold of
>>> someone in Piratpartiet or internationally.
>>>
>>> *Other contact:*
>>> mail: international at piratpartiet.se
>>> Twitter: @collentine
>>> irc.pirateirc.net user: collentine (always there but slow responses)
>>> Skype: josef.ohlsson.collentine (only important conversations)
>>> Cel: +52 55 48 23 52 83 (text me, if urgent)
>>>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:49:17 +0700
From: Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is
    16    years away
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-1

Global warming is a fact, Spanish desertified/arid zones have doubled, from 25 to 50% in 20 years, and if you get UN to agree with greenpeace in anything, that is because there is already too much evidence.

Skeptics about man-driven global warming exist in internet forums and mailing lists. Scientists agree in a 99%. There's more believers in creationism.



Salut!Gijs Overvliet <govervliet at gmail.com> escribi?:Dear Richard,

The whole global warming thing is at least dubious. Temperatures in Europe have been higher than they are now, and there are still humans living here. "this imminent threat to civilization's survival" might be overstating things a bit...

I suggest that we stick to our core issues.

Gijs

2012/7/22 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719?print=true

says that we are on track to burn enough CO2 to cause 2 degrees of
global heating in just 16 years. ?It also reports that 2 degrees may
be too much to be safe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/arctic-ice-melting-oil-drilling

reports on positive feedback in the Arctic that causes even more
global heating.

I suggest that the Pirate Parties strongly address this imminent
threat to civilization's survival, in addition to the issues that were
their original concern.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org ?www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
? Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:03:04 +0200
From: Jos? Manuel Goig <hosemanuelgoc at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is
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+1 Gijs

I don't think we should step into green parties territory.

Jos? Manuel Goig
@jmgoig
http://usuadio.com
El 22/07/2012 22:41, "Gijs Overvliet" <govervliet at gmail.com> va escriure:

> Dear Richard,
>
> The whole global warming thing is at least dubious. Temperatures in Europe
> have been higher than they are now, and there are still humans living here.
> "this imminent threat to civilization's survival" might be overstating
> things a bit...
>
> I suggest that we stick to our core issues.
>
> Gijs
>
> 2012/7/22 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
>
>>
>> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719?print=true
>>
>> says that we are on track to burn enough CO2 to cause 2 degrees of
>> global heating in just 16 years.  It also reports that 2 degrees may
>> be too much to be safe.
>>
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/arctic-ice-melting-oil-drilling
>>
>> reports on positive feedback in the Arctic that causes even more
>> global heating.
>>
>> I suggest that the Pirate Parties strongly address this imminent
>> threat to civilization's survival, in addition to the issues that were
>> their original concern.
>>
>> --
>> Dr Richard Stallman
>> President, Free Software Foundation
>> 51 Franklin St
>> Boston MA 02110
>> USA
>> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>>   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
>> ____________________________________________________
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>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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