[pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16 years away

[Gijs Overvliet]

"There is no need to conceal military installations. "

What gives you the credit to make such a definite claim? Forgive me for
doubting the fact that you are in a position to make such strategic
military decisions.


2012/7/27 Cal. <peppecal at gmail.com>

>
> Il giorno 27/lug/2012 10:43, "Antonio Garcia" <ningunotro at hotmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
> >
> > The "green" selling effort of the nuclear-power-industry has nothing to
> do with CO2 blame, what they are after is that there is but one way to
> conceal a military nuclear facility... the radiation noise of a civil
> nuclear facility. Thus they need the civil application to survive... if
> they want to be able to conceal the military one.
>
> There is no need to conceal military installations.
>
> > In some way, CO2 proficiency is used only as an useful excuse (in this
> context), just as combating child porn is the useful excuse in the war on
> control of the internet.
>
> This seems paranoid. Isn't CO2 bad anymore?
>
> > This would be of course in the interest of the few TOP LEVEL Competing
> ELITES.
> >
> > Fighting pollution this way does not only allow them to provide civil
> nuclear facilities behind which to hide their military nuclear
> installations... it also allows them to exert pressure on the new emerging
> economies that can only compete with "dirty" energy because they have no
> access to the latest clean technology... and there we connect with the
> Intellectual Propery (both copyright and patent) term extension and
> enforcement efforts that try to extend our advantage in time.
>
> Military technology is not just intellectual property, with great power
> comes great responsibility, do we want north korea to bomb us? I guess
> there would be no problem in making those infos public, but the main goal
> should be to develop non-that-military tech, like thorium. Or ITER, and so
> on...
>
> >
> >
> > Antonio García
> > PP-ES
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:21:43 +0200
> > To: rms at gnu.org; pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >
> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16
> years away
> >
> > On 23.07.2012, at 05:42, Richard Stallman wrote:
> >
> > >    The whole global warming thing is at least dubious.
> > >
> > > Not according to real climate scientists.  That "doubt" is FUD
> > > intended to convince people to take no action.
> >
> > And in whose interested would this be? In contrast there were
> > proven reports that nuclear-power-industry have invested a
> > lot in research proving that CO2 is to blame on the coming end
> > of the world as we know it, in order to build more nuclear power
> > plants, selling them as "green", as they emit zero CO2.
> >
> >
> > Gregory Engels
> > International Coordinator
> > Pirate Party of Germany
> >
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> > skype:gregory.engels
> > jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
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> >
> >
> >
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