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[roberto aka robske]

To add to the discussion... Greenland didn't have ice in 900ad. Hence the
name Greenland. I think its always fluctuating, but our emissions do have
an impact on making the fluctuations more extreme.
Op 29 jul. 2012 02:11 schreef "Richard Stallman" <rms at gnu.org> het volgende:

>     I would be careful with such argument. It is true that the death-rate
>     increased during the heat wave you speak about, but anybody could
>     explain to you we had summer heat waves long before the human
>     industrialization could cause global warming.
>
> This is the usual argument of global heatintg deniers, and the
> rebuttal is also well known.
>
> Every extreme weather event that occurs COULD have happened in the
> past.  However, the effect of global heating is to make such events,
> which used to be very rare, increasingly frequent.  Even worse events,
> that used to be so unlikely we never saw them, become merely rare,
> and then increasingly frequent.
>
> It is hard to compare deaths between 1636 and 2003.  (Was the heat
> wave really 9 years ago?  It seems more recent in my memory.)  I think
> most people in France were malnourished in the 17th century; I have
> read that was so in the 18th century and I suppose it was true before.
> Maybe they died from crop failure.
>
> Are there any temperature records from 1636?  I don't know when a
> thermometer was first invented.  Do we have any idea how hot it got
> then, to compare with the recent heat wave?
>
> Anyway, if this sort of heatwave back then happened only once every
> 400 years, it isn't so rare any more.
>
>     I believe the impacts on developing countries would be much more
>     significant. They are much more vulnerable to the potable water
> problems
>     on the short-term, and desertification is putting a lot of Saharan
>     African countries in a very difficult situation for example.
>
> I agree.  (The heat wave in France was pertinent to the discussion at
> the time.)
>
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