[pp.int.general] PPEU at the PPI GA

[Heiko Schramm]

Hallo Pirates,
 
I’m a European – and I feel like a European.
You can read this in my homepage
http://www.global-working.de/index_en.html
 
If you build a European Pirate Party I want to be a member of this
party.
I would like to pay a membership fee for this party beyond my membership
fee for the Pirate Party Germany.
If we can’t have a party, let’s start with a Mailinglist or an european
wiki or an european homepage.
Let’s start to create a statute and a first program for a European
Pirate Party.
 
In Germany there is no delegation system in the whole Pirate Party.
Why can’t we build an european party without delegation through national
Pirate Parties?
My proposal: Every European, who wants to join in, can do this. 
And from the moment someone is a member, he or she can vote on all
europaen affairs, beyond a membership in a national Pirate Party.  
 
Is there anyone interested in an European Pirate Party organized from
the base?
If we are 20 people we can start. Call on me.  
 
Best regards 
Heiko Schramm
Pirate Party Germany
http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:Heiko_Schramm
 
 
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von Justus Römeth
Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. März 2012 22:39
An: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
Betreff: [pp.int.general] PPEU at the PPI GA
 
One of the steady criticism towards PPI has been that it is very
Eurocentric. This manifests in all GAs having been held in Europe so
far, which in turn made physical participation for many non-European
delegates very expensive, and the subsequent established remote
participation has been lacking, especially when it came to being
elected.
 
Within Europe, on the other hand, there have been calls for more
cooperation between the European pirate parties. We are discussing now
the possibility to form a PPEU (or PPEurope, incorporating European
non-EU parties). Since most European parties will have delegates at the
PPI GA in Prague, there have been suggestions of using that time to
start talking about PPEU as well. So far, some time on Sunday has been
set aside for that, with panels with other topics for non-European (or
non-interested) delegates (there have been panels on different topics
during the 2011 GA in Friedrichshafen as well). However, concerns have
been raised that such a panel could be disappointing for non-European
PPs, as it could take valuable time from discussing topics related to
PPI.
 
Since I don't think it makes a lot sense for non-Europeans to read the
PPEU ML I just wanted to raise awareness to this point and ask for your
opinion. I hope that the value of having a European PP is also clear to
non-European pirates, as it likely will lighten the burden of PPI
regarding intra-European issues, and could in turn help set up PPI GAs
outside of Europe (by experimenting with remote delegations and
decentralized GAs by themselves, for example).
 
However, before we have a big discussion about this in Prague it would
probably be good to talk about this panel beforehand, especially
concerning non-European delegates.
 
What are the opinions from Africa,, Asia the Americas and Oceania on
this?
 
-J
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