[pp.int.general] Tyrant banks, walk the plank!

[Silvan M. Gebhardt]

I dont think that using such a slogan helps the cause, it will put us into the anticapitalists side very fast which is a position where we will be having a harder time talking with people. At least this is my impression from Switzerland 






*disclaimer: poster is running his own startup so the focus on capitalismus is slightly less absolute* 

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Von: "Justus Römeth" <squig at dfpx.de> 
An: rms at gnu.org, "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk" <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net> 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2012 18:29:08 
Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] Tyrant banks, walk the plank! 

Well, we are talking<http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2012-05/europa-jugend-arbeitslosigkeit/seite-1>about 
it in Germany, because of immigration and our universal care system 
it will hit us sooner rather than later. I don't think that austerity is 
the biggest problem, rather it is corrupt and incapable politicians that 
can not be voted out of office (like in Spain, Italy or Greece) and budget 
cuts that hit social welfare and education rather than infrastructure, 
politicians' wages or saving 'important' industries like banks, car 
manufacturers and the likes. 

The Pirate Party Germany is against the ESM in its current form (well, 
officially afaik only the PP of NRW is against it, but so far any pirate 
you talked to thinks that it is a bad idea that is clearly not working). 
Combine that with the unconditional basic income and the freedom of 
education (as in educational material and free schools and universities) 
that we have as official aims and I think we have found a way to solve this 
crisis over here. 

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote: 

> The biggest political issue in much of Europe today is the austerity 
> death spiral, aka shock capitalism. 
> 
> That problem is not occurring in Germany, so the Pirate Party can get 
> votes there without talking about that issue. However, a party in 
> Spain, Italy, or Greece which doesn't give that issue an important 
> place is not addressing the people's concerns. The coming Greek 
> election will be, in effect, a referendum on this. 
> 
> I therefore propose that the Pirate Movement take a stand: Tyrant 
> banks, walk the plank! 
> 
> -- 
> Dr Richard Stallman 
> President, Free Software Foundation 
> 51 Franklin St 
> Boston MA 02110 
> USA 
> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org 
> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. 
> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call 
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