[pp.int.general] R: R: R: R: Liquid Feedback in Italian Primetime Tv Show

Carlito carlito at subvertising.org
Wed Nov 21 16:49:32 CET 2012


Da: carlo von lynX 
> this is not a conflict internal to the italian PP

Absolutely yes, to be even more precise, it's just an internal conflict in
your head.
I've just wrote a message to the list and you go crazy, as always. 

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:43:40PM +0100, Carlito wrote:
> > 1- You expulsed members that were not agree with you
> 
> the list of reasons is quite different and if we weren't respectful of
your
> privacy it would be a quite amusing read for outstanders.

Too easy to hide yourself behind "privacy" reasons. 
Just show anonymously the facts and list can have an idea. 

> anyway, your recent activity on this list already got you "stepped back"
from
> your role in the swiss PP.. what are you looking for.. trying to get
expelled
> from that PP 

I resigned from my role in PPS for interest conflicts with the TV show.

> and this mailing list as well?

The list name is "Pirate Parties International" and I wrote a message about
a Liquid Feedback project involving 3 million European people.
Sorry if I'm OT.

> > 2- you didn't accept/inserted new members because you are afraid of
> > "takeover"
> 
> you tried to take over the majority in the assembly but that wasn't in the
list
> of reasons that got you expelled.

I took the majority (legally). 
You didn't accept the takeover and you stopped the new members (illegally).

> > 3- you decide all (even the expulsions at point 1!) with a small group
> > of friends thanks to the delegation system in Liquid Feedback.
> 
> your luck again that the results of the vote aren't public as they show
that
> plenty of single voters came along just to make sure you're gone...
> 
> but for the future we created a court of arbitration as it is
inappropriate to
> require a majority of the entire party just to get rid of a person working
> against PP interests.

Too late. 
Or you should insert me again and repeat the vote.
In any case, you're creating a Court of Arbitration without the new members'
votes, so it's an illegal Court of Arbitration, elected always between you
and your small group of friends. 

> > Lets' discuss about it rather that laughing, ok?
> 
> you never discuss. you just place your propaganda.
> that's why your presence here is quite superflous.

I call this a discussion. The truth is that you like to discuss only in
Liquid Feedback because you have the (fake) majority...! :) that's simply
funny.
You began to troll without reasons, remember: I just wrote a message about
the Liquid Feedback project on the tv show Servizio Pubblico and you replied
saying that it's a "joke", trolling and trolling again.



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