[pp.int.general] Pirate Party of Serbia is Finally Officially Registered

Tue Nov 27 17:11:56 CET 2012

I am a bit confused.

If I understand it correctly there is currently one Serbian Pirate 
party that has the legal status of a civil movement, mentioned in the 
email from Marko, and one Serbian Pirate Party that has the legal status 
of something else/nothing (?), mentioned from Aleksandar. Is this 
correct? And both claim to represent the true Serbian pirate party?

Well, PPI demands that a member organization have internal democratic 
structure, so I suppose that a quick way to see who actually is the true 
Serbian pirate party is by at the next PPI GA ask for the statutes and 
minutes from the last general assembly of both entities claiming to be 
the Serbian pirates.

Actually, I would be very interested to see English versions of the 
statutes for these organizations allready at this time if any such 
exists or can be produced.

I would also like to see a list of board members for both organizations 
and the minutes from the meeting where they were elected.

Best regards

Mab

On 2012-11-27 11:01, Aleksandar Blagojevic wrote:
> LOL
>
>  All of this is a blunt manipulation. Pirate Party of Serbia is NOT
> officially registered as a political party.
>
>  Earlier this year in October we already informed the public about
> this group not supporting basic human rights, which was enough for
> them to make a division:
> 
> http://piratskapartija.com/pirate-party-of-serbia-defending-integrity-and-good-name/
> [6] Considering the cause, this group should not and can not be
> perceived as a Pirate whatever because they are not serious in
> relation to our fundamental values.
>
>  This group is simply using historical chance in an opportunistic way
> to gain personal and material benefit and to impress all of us how
> detached from reality young people can be.
>
>  Group also vandalized the wiki page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Serbia [7] (I know the
> editing nick), but is kinda cool to have my name defending basic 
> human
> rights against the whole madafakin "core team" ^_^
>
>  OFF
>  Exclusive news like this, "Official registration of Pirate Party in
> Serbia", will be aired on mayor world wide media most probably next
> year all along with death threats coming straight from above from our
> closed political establishment finding themselves in a weird 
> situation
> of having the real opposition after more than two decades of very
> complicated political life in Serbia.
>  Not like this, as a shy and below the belt slimy manipulation on
> this mail list.
>
>  Regards from lower decks in wild and windy South European seas!
>
>  On 11/26/2012 08:54 PM, Marko Mitrovic wrote:
>
>> Ahoy dear Pirates!
>> We are hereby delighted to announce that the PIRATE PARTY OF SERBIA 
>> IS FINALLY OFFICIALLY REGISTERED, in the form of a civil movement. It 
>> is an unfortunate but necessary step for us before registering as a 
>> political party because of a rather restrictive election law in Serbia 
>> that require parties to collect 10000 signatures and a sizable 
>> monetary amount prior to registering.
>>
>> Being organized in a civil movement, officially called Pirate 
>> Movement(_Piratski pokret_ in Serbian), will help us grow as a party 
>> and learn how to work in more formalized structures than before. We 
>> hope that the restrictive law will offer us a stern challenge which 
>> when overcame will make us far more prepared for serious battle on the 
>> ugly Serbian political scene. Always look for the bright side, eh? :) 
>> WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO TAKE PART AT ELECTIONS IN CAPACITY OF CIVIL 
>> MOVEMENT (though we would still need 10000 signatures for that), but 
>> as the next general elections in Serbia are scheduled for 2016. we 
>> hope to register the political party prior to that.
>>
>> In the following days we will organize a sort of celebration party 
>> (most likely on next Friday, 7th of December) where everybody will be 
>> invited, so if someone of Pirates from this list is passing by 
>> Belgrade feel free to come.
>>
>> Now with a registered body we are ready to start more serious work 
>> including, but of course not limited to, expanding our members base, 
>> starting grassroots movements in all cities and towns where that is 
>> possible, organizing projects and events that will give us more air 
>> time in old school media because use of Internet is not widespread in 
>> Serbia as much as we would like to, and many, many more.
>>
>> WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALEKSANDAR BLAGOJEVIĆ for all of his 
>> hard work done with establishing Pirates in Serbia and basically 
>> running the show all by himself for couple of years. But sadly, he 
>> chose not to be a part of this Pirate Movement so WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO 
>> UPDATE ALL YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PPRS WITH THE DATA BELOW, 
>> READMIT US TO PPI-LEADERS MAILING LIST AND KEEP YOUR FURTHER OFFICIAL 
>> CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE OFFICIALLY REGISTERED PIRATE MOVEMENT. Parting 
>> ways with Blagojević was necessary due to his ever increasing 
>> authoritarian approaches to leadership, lack of transparency about his 
>> whereabouts, actions and intentions, continuous name-calling and 
>> attempts to oust out any Pirates he didn't like, and unwillingness to 
>> actually be part of any attempt to register and formalize with even 
>> suspicions of sabotage. Thus, we were sadly and regrettably forced to 
>> exclude him (or branch out, depending of view point), and a handful, 
>> if any, of his followers. Nevertheless, IF ALEKSANDAR BLAGOJEVIĆ IS 
>> WILLING TO RECONSIDER HIS APPROACH, HE IS OF COURSE MORE THAN WELCOME 
>> TO BE PART OF PIRATE MOVEMENT ONCE AGAIN.
>>
>> This long(ish) explanation was necessary in order to make members of 
>> PPI know that all Pirates of the new Pirate Movement are old Pirates 
>> active for a long time in Serbia with just the change of one man _“at 
>> the helm”_. That's important because WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE 
>> PART OF PPI AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES BY.
>>
>> This email is written in the name of entire PPRS. We are of course 
>> open to any possible questions.
>>
>> NEW CONTACT INFORMATION:
>>
>> Website: www.piratska.org [2]
>>
>> Forum for discussions: www.piratska.org/forum/ [3]
>>
>> Contact emails: HQ at PIRATSKA.ORG, PRESS at PIRATSKA.ORG, THO WE WILL GET 
>> EVERY MAIL SENT TO ANY @PIRATSKA.ORG [4] ADRESS :)
>>
>> WE WILL SET UP NEW EMAIL ADRESS FOR PPI-LEADERS LIST WHEN PPI BOARD 
>> GIVE US A GREEN LIGHT ABOUT READMITTANCE.
>>
>> REPORTS FROM PIRATE MEETINGS: 
>> HTTP://PIRATSKA.ORG/WIKI/ŠABLON:SASTANCIBOX [5]
>>
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>
> --
>  I prefer to have options, rather than plans.
>  Aleksandar Blagojevic aka blaeks [8]
>  Pirate party of Serbia [9]
>
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> [1] 
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> [2] http://www.piratska.org/
> [3] http://www.piratska.org/forum/
> [4] http://piratska.org
> [5] http://piratska.org/wiki/%C5%A0ablon:SastanciBox
> [6]
> 
> http://piratskapartija.com/pirate-party-of-serbia-defending-integrity-and-good-name/
> [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Serbia
> [8] http://blaeks.wordpress.com/
> [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Serbia
>
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