[pp.int.general] Julia Schramm

[Amelia Andersdotter]

even the european parliament international trade's committee adopted my 
opinion calling for european member states and the commission to 
minimize the impact of third country legislation on european citizens.

as will's comments made clear, it is likely that the differences between 
copyright legislations in different countries may well mean that german 
citizens, and other europeans, could in this case have suffered from a 
more restrictive interpretation of copyright law than they have 
democratically decided is acceptable.

surely the piratenpartei in germany could not respond more 
conservatively to this problem than the european parliament committee?

/a

On 20.09.2012 01:12, Will Tovey wrote:
> It seems the DMCA notice was sent to Dropbox, which seems to be run by a
> company incorporated and based in the US, and thus subject to US laws.
> Whether or not the DMCA can be applied to non-US residents/citizens
> (either in theory or in practice), the main thing is how this highlights
> how democracy hasn't caught up with the Internet in terms of the global
> reach of individual people or companies, and this goes far beyond
> copyright, covering the huge mess that is Internet jurisdictions.
>
> Perhaps this is what the various PPs should be looking into; trying to
> find a way to fix the problems with applying national laws in
> inconsistent ways to a nation-less and global network?
>
> As an aside, had the file been hosted elsewhere (such as on
> Piratenpartei's wiki, which I think it is), then the DMCA wouldn't
> necessarily apply, but the principles of notice-and-action could do. I'm
> not an expert on the e-commerce limitations, but I imagine a valid DMCA
> notice could arguably constitute "actual knowledge" of illegal activity.
>
> [Also, thank you to those who answered the questions I posted earlier.]
>
> -Will
>
> On 19/09/2012 22:40, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>> Why is the DMCA applicable to German citizens?
>>
>> Surely the sanity of the democratic system somehow rests on the
>> principle that the people have opportunity to elect those people who
>> make their laws. One asks why the Piratenpartei is not criticizing the
>> government more sharply for not remedying that imbalance in the
>> effects of application of the American copyright law outside of the US.
>>
>> /a
> ____________________________________________________
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general