[pp.int.general] What is democracy in a party

[thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl]

Why?

looool why?

they'd just shushed


Zbigniew Łukasiak schreef op 29.12.2012 12:04:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Carlito <carlito at subvertising.org> 
> wrote:
>> So, if the majority expulses members and stop new subscribers you 
>> will always have the same "controllers" ad vitam.
>>
>> IMHO this seems not being a "democratic organization" (the first 
>> rule should be alternance of government)
>
> In my opinion the alternance of government is only an indicator of
> democracy - if there is no government (i.e. no board in this case) 
> you
> can still have a democracy.
>
> From wikipedia:
>
> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have
> an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Democracy
> allows eligible citizens to participate equally—either directly or
> through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and
> creation of laws.
>
> With a permanent Liquid Feedback assembly you can have a system that
> meets the criteria above.
>
> Even if the organisation was not changing at all and stayed the same
> few persons all the time - that would still not really interfere with
> the definition above.
>
> Of course if a party (of the size of practically any of our pirate
> parties) wants to play any serious role it needs to grow and evolve.
> It cannot be a closed system.  But growing is not a requirement for
> being democratic.
>
> That said I have my own set of concerns about internet voting and
> Liquid Feedback in particular - but this is a subject of another
> thread already.
>
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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