[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

Betiel betielix at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 15:38:11 CEST 2013

What`s the matter if it is leftist or not? The question must be if it will
be usefull and solve people problems or not. Or if basic incomes should be
addressed by pirates parties or not. If you see it as a kind of human right
I believe is a valid pirate topic.

In Argentina we actually have basic income by law. It would be crazy to try
to change that, except perhaps to ask for a change in the mount due to
inflation, so we really do not have discussions about it.
Personally I believe having a basic income helps to avoid abuses from some
unethical companies.

2013/7/12 Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>

> Basic income is often mentioned as point of the pirates program.  Do
> you think it is a universal thing across all pirate parties - or is it
> just the German pirates that stand strongly behind it?
> Do you think it is leftist?
> Personally I support Basic Income.  It might be viewed as slightly
> leftist - but if it is introduced together with a linear taxation
> scale and getting rid of unemployment benefits - then it is not
> leftist at all.  For me the most important aspect of this whole
> package is that it makes governance simpler.  Taxation is decoupled
> and can be payed independently for all income sources and the state is
> not forced to do things that depend too much on personal circumstances
> (like checking if the person is really unemployed and if he really
> tries to find a job etc) - state is not good in these - people quickly
> learn how to fool it and that is demoralizing.  But state is good for
> universal services - like paying everyone the same amount.  So let the
> state do what it is good at and let other, smaller organizations do
> other things.
> There are of course many other benefits as well - but this is what
> moves me personally.
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
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