[pp.int.general] snowden in island?

[illunatic at greenpirate.org]

The PRISM leak presented the USA with two major issues to address, one  
of which involves the rest of the world on a much broader scope than  
the other. The first issue is whether whisteblowers should be treated  
as traitors. This is an important issue that without a doubt needs to  
be addressed. The US government accuses Snowden of providing the enemy  
of the US federal government with information. Snowden provided US  
citizens with this information. The US government has implied that its  
citizens are the enemy. The treatment of whistleblowers by the US  
government is a very big issue for the US.

As important as that may be, there is an even larger and more pressing  
issue currently facing both the US and the world which deserves our  
immediate and continued focus. The issue of the NSA spying on all of  
us needs to take priority for the US domestically and also for nations  
that are now known to be affected by it. From claims that NSA had been  
spying on President Obama since before he was elected to the recent  
discovery that they are reading emails of European parliament members,  
this is a colossal attack on citizens and governments alike. The NSA  
poses an open threat to US and foreign governments. We need them out  
of our government and out of your governments. We need them out of our  
leaders emails.

Snowden may find his way to asylum. He may not. One thing is for sure  
though, if we are to take him at face value. He did what he did to  
bring focus to the larger issue of NSA spying. He has clearly stated  
that he did not want the discussion to be made about himself. He wants  
the discussion to be about how the NSA is posing a threat to the  
people of the United States and to people of the world. Please, if you  
support Snowden's cause, focus our resources on how to best address  
the issue of the NSA's unfettered access to private data.

Thank you for your consideration and wish me luck that I don't crash  
into any palm trees or anything.

- Ryan Smith

NSA whistleblower Russ Tice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DmN80yi5mo

NSA spying on MEP emails
http://falkvinge.net/2013/06/24/the-united-states-wiretapped-the-mail-of-the-european-parliament/

Opt-out of PRISM
http://prism-break.org/

Quoting "peter.boehm" <peter.boehm at bremen.piratenpartei.de>:

> This thread is just a distraction, keeping some of snowden's former  
> coworkers busy.
>
> to nsa: hey you! why not enjoy your next holiday in iceland or ecuador? :D
> if you like it, you can stay for some years.
>
> i wonder if nsa/cia/etc is planning to remove all their personell  
> from these countries...
>
> On 06/25/2013 09:08 AM, Jordi Soucheiron wrote:
>> This may not be the best place to share sensitive information.
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/25 Ryan Moffitt <ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com  
>> <mailto:ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com>>
>>
>>    I know he was in Russia this morning, but he seems to have since
>>    disappeared.
>>
>>
>>    On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ryan Moffitt
>>    <ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com <mailto:ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>        Is there anyone from PP Norway or Iceland who can give us some
>>        info on this?
>>
>>
>>        On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Travis McCrea
>>        <me at travismccrea.com <mailto:me at travismccrea.com>> wrote:
>>
>>            There will certainly be a movie.
>>
>>            On 2013-06-24, at 2:47 PM, adrian.ppgr at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:adrian.ppgr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>            It's not a matter of confirmation or denial. The
>>>            spectacular thing is that Snowden has managed to escape
>>>            the all-seeing eye of the USA (and of the rest of the
>>>            world apparently)
>>>
>>>            May he live long and prosper.
>>>
>>>
>>>            ----- Reply message -----
>>>            From: "peter.boehm" <peter.boehm at bremen.piratenpartei.de
>>>            <mailto:peter.boehm at bremen.piratenpartei.de>>
>>>            To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk"
>>>            <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>            <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>>
>>>            Subject: [pp.int.general] snowden in island?
>>>            Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 21:09
>>>
>>>
>>>            can anyone confirm or deny this:
>>>
>>>             
>>> http://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/3802-pirate-party-norway-snowden-passed-through-norway-to-iceland
>>>
>>>            "Organization Pirate Party Norway claims that spy accused
>>>            Edward Snowden
>>>            landed at Oslo Gardermon airport last night".
>>>
>>>            greetings, peter
>>>
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>>        --         Ryan Moffitt
>>        ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com <mailto:ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com>
>>
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>>
>>
>>    --     Ryan Moffitt
>>    ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com <mailto:ryan.m.moffitt at gmail.com>
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