[pp.int.general] I had this dream once...

Mozart Palmer mozart.palmer at pp-international.net
Sun Jun 30 14:45:38 CEST 2013


I was of course speaking as generally as I could, and particularly from the
Australian perspective. That perspective is not that activism from
political parties does not exist, but there is a general complacency from
the major two or three parties, and a good number of the minor parties when
it comes to activism — they are more concerned with competing elections.
There are a handful of political parties that don't do this, among them the
Greens (with whom we frequently work), WikiLeaks Party, and Socialist
Alliance.

I personally am under no illusions, but I do look for the strengths in our
movement. Whether or not they are exclusive strengths, they are strengths
nonetheless. There must be an amount of politics and there must be an
amount of activism. These do not need to be, nor should they, in my
opinion, separate from each other entirely.


On 30 June 2013 20:24, Anouk <jakobsheep at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Jun 30, 2013 10:04 AM, "Mozart Palmer" <
> mozart.palmer at pp-international.net> wrote:
> > I think a lot of respect is lost by existing parties precisely because
> they are not activists. They are complacent, believing competing for votes
> every n years is all that matters. I fully support the duality of activist
> and political organisation, and I think taking initiatives like this — or
> at the very least investigating their viability — is exactly what Pirate
> Parties should be doing. It's one thing to talk the talk, another to walk
> the walk :-)
> >
>
> I mistook "existing parties" for pirate parties.
> But that brings up the remarque : No that is not true per sé. There are
> ecological activists parties, radical left, anti-capitalists and not to
> forget, the extreem rightwing parties.
>
> The pirate party is NOT an exclusive activist political party nor an
> exclusive peoples movement. Wishing, hoping, thinking or believing it to be
> different does not change this reality. So in the end we are still dealing
> with this 'perfect' pirate dogma.
>
> I belong to the 'bitter' pirate party, I am dealing with politics and have
> to swallow a lot of this (shit) almost daily. I am not looking for a active
> bubblegum substitute because it 'feels' better or easier. But yes, getting
> that bitter out of my system once in a while with sweets is a good remedie
> not to 'shrink' as a human being.
>
> There is a type of activism that forces 'the others' to react (the
> abbusive activism). And there is the examplairy activism that shows 'the
> others' how it is better done.
>
> When I hear pirates say : No politics, only activism. I do not share that
> dream. For me activism is to anticipate / interact with daily life, nothing
> more nothing less.
> I am not a different person as an activist or as a politician (I am a
> pirate candidate for next elections).
>
> I prefer bitter reality to bubblegum (house?) parties.
>
> Anouk Neeteson
> member of national bureau of Parti Pirate France
>
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