[pp.int.general] The PP-EU programme

Muriel Rovira Esteva muriel at pirata.cat
Sun Nov 17 11:30:15 CET 2013

Dear Zbigniew,

I'm not so sure about your last sentence.

I guess that despite the awesomeness of having a Common Programme, the
text itself that we will have this first time feels somehow incomplete
or "too soft" in one aspect or another by all the parties involved
(it's the drawback of consensus). That's why the idea is that it can
be combined with our own bits.   :)

So maybe some parties will still prefer to just copy the whole
programme of a single party, which may be much more complete,
internally coherent and have stronger positions about key aspects that
the parties may consider important.

However, this text is just a starting point, and I'm sure more common
ground will be found in the future elections as we have further
discussions.  :)

On the other hand, perhaps for small parties without many resources
that haven't had time to discuss their programmes, a short bullet
point list such as the European Pirates Manifesto may come in much
more handy, since it can be easier to explain and discuss than a 15
page document:   :)


Best regards,


2013/11/17 Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>:
> I don't know if everyone here is aware about the progress of the PP-EU
> programme work. There is now a solid proposal:
> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=programme:conferences:athens2013:consolidated_programme
> with several amendments submitted by the individual parties and
> discussions going on at:
> http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.programme
> There is no other inter-party programme work and so once this is
> agreed upon it will become The Pirate Party Programme - parties with
> undefined programmes will adopt it or parts of it (because this is the
> lazy way) and parties that already have programmes will anyway start
> using it as the default and declaring their own direction in terms of
> differences from this common programme.
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
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