[pp.int.general] Oracle / Java put embargo to Russia

Lisa lisa at piratenpartij.nl
Sun Aug 10 12:10:09 CEST 2014


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I'm curious about your source, Jelena. One of my Russian contacts has
not been able to confirm this claim.

[11:47:13] <Lisa> Graved: is it true that Russians can't update Java
anymore? can you please try and confirm?
[11:47:23] <Lisa> (or deny)
[11:49:14] <Lisa> https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[11:50:12] <Graved> Loading for me
[11:50:20] <Lisa> able to download?
[11:50:23] <Graved> Can you please link source of these news? :P
[11:50:27] <Graved> Yeah, can download
[11:50:42] <Lisa> ok, hang on
[11:50:56] <Lisa>
http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2014-August/015663.html
[11:52:20] <Graved> I still can download it... And most people
download it from torrent anyway (because who can be bothered to find
this download page)
[11:52:51] <Lisa> how about updating though? do you have any way to
either confirm or deny that claim?
[11:53:04] <Graved> Give me a second, I'll update
[11:53:07] <Lisa> thank you
[11:54:50] <Lisa> also, please pm me the first part of your IP so that
i can add it in my reply to show you're actually in Russia.
[11:55:04] <Graved> Works for me... But I'm not using our most popular
ISP, so I just may be outside of the IP range
[11:55:47] <Lisa> that would be quite a shitty embargo then, a bit
amateuristic if they 'forget' an ISP
[11:56:44] <Graved> Well, considering some of our ISP can use
non-Russia ip ranges? Can be tricky
[11:57:00] <Lisa> do you have any objections if i include this
conversation in my reply?
[11:57:11] <Graved> Use it as you like
[11:57:16] <Lisa> thanks <3

FYI, his partial IP for confirmation: 141.101.212.xxx

Also, this page states that 'shit is false':
http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=40353

I'm assuming this rumour hasn't been spread through PPI social media
accounts without doing this kind of basic fact checking, right?

Cheers,
Lisa


On 9-8-2014 1:07, Jelena Jovanovic wrote:
> Java blocking people in Russia from downloading any updates or 
> installations due to the embargo.
> 
> SHIT JUST GOT REAL
> https://java.com/en/download/help/error_embargoed.xml
> 
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