[pp.int.general] Anybody checked out placeavote.com?

Betiel betielix at gmail.com
Mon Jun 2 22:41:21 CEST 2014


Well, exactly that`s the heart of the matter. Nobody here has a better
solution than swarm or liquid approach) So we only try to improve what we
think is the better we know. At least until someone more inspired than us
appears. That`s the best we can give.

We know both (swarm and liquid) have their issues, but we believe we can
work on those issues to try to make them dissapear, or at least make them
less problematic than the issues that have the actual democracies arround
the world.

Betiel

PS: You are not the only one with experience in life!



2014-06-02 17:14 GMT-03:00 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:

> If only ANYONE could point me towards any more efficient one? Without
> wishful thinking about the situation being the right one for it to apply.
> All except licking the wrong asses, of course, I do value my dignity.
>
> I do have some experience in life, you know, becoming 50 was not a
> freeride.
>
> > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 11:04:14 +0200
> > From: zzbbyy at gmail.com
> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Anybody checked out placeavote.com?
>
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Both lack of infrastructure and lack of personal capacities are due to
> the
> > > poor sociological level the overall mass dynamics inject into the
> swarm.
> > > When the majotity decides everything, and that majority does not care
> to
> > > inform itself thoroughly before casting a vote but does so following
> buddy
> > > politics, or low rationality desires, or voting no matter how because
> what
> > > sustains their self-esteem is exercising their right to vote even in
> the
> > > easiest way possible, tossing a coin or throwing dice...
> > >
> > > ... then what the swarm becomes is an #IDIOCRAZY ;(.
> > >
> > > When it takes intelligent pirates AGES to get a wrong act reversed, and
> > > while they are onto it 10 other wrong and stupid decision stack up...
> > > intelligent people give up because remaining coherent becomes
> impossible.
> > >
> > > They silently drop out. No need top make an useless fuss out of it.
> > >
> > > And with each intelligent dropout the black hole of total #IDIOCRAZY
> cpmes
> > > closer for the Pirate Movement.
> > >
> > > I've been battling the phenomenon inside the Spanish Pirate Party,
> before I
> > > had to take it by the horns at the PPI when I attended the 2012 Prague
> > > General Assembly.
> >
> > It does not look like you are too successful in this - have you ever
> > thought about changing your methods?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Zbigniew
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