[pp.int.general] Ukraine

Jelena Jovanovic jelena.the.one at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 22:53:30 CET 2014


yeah its personal mission, its right wing.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Jelena Jovanovic
> <jelena.the.one at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My honest opinion is that you should pull all connections NOW and push it
> > harder to become observer / mediator in the process.
> > Why I say this? Because Serbian nationalistic and religious movement
> DVERI
> > (consists of traditionalists and conservatives basically) is on observer
> > mission in Crimea . If they could have done it without having any MP and
> > legitimacy here, I am sure  2 pirate parties can do it as well, and
> smarter.
>
> It that their own mission - or are they sent by an international
> organization (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe
> maybe?).
>
> Z.
>
> >
> >
> > ****As for Venezuela its info war there, Strafor & Canvas spread into
> their
> > students orgs training their leaders. For some reason CIA backed option
> > appears more desirable than other opposition movements in Venezuela just
> > like in Serbia 1998.
> http://revolution-news.com/category/revnews/venezuela/
> >
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe it is crucial that we all open some credit lines in trust to
> >> other Pirate Parties. This is the way we could become a real
> >> international force.
> >>
> >> I did not follow the Venezuelan crisis too closely - but in Ukraine
> >> the Pirate Party has members in both the Ukrainian and Russian
> >> speaking communities, and we have also a Pirate Party in Russia. This
> >> is a great position for being a mediation force. We are not a big
> >> player yet - the stream media will not follow our efforts immediately
> >> - but we are in a unique position and we should use that and build
> >> reputation step by step until they notice us.
> >>
> >> If PPI is to have any significance - then in a situation like this the
> >> board should reach out to the leaders of Pirate Parties from the
> >> countries involved and force them to make a joint statement about the
> >> crisis.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Zbigniew Łukasiak
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jelena
> >
> >
> >
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>
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> Zbigniew Lukasiak
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