[pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide - fight the ACTA zombies !

Fri Mar 28 12:46:28 CET 2014

I was told that several organisations looked at there calenders and said
"there is nothing, we can do it then".

Well... there is probably a reason why there is nothing else planned.

Z. not WE have to change it - if you need another date, DO IT. If you
have 20 demos on another date in Poland, and there are still only 6
others, then propably the others can change it.

I am not happy about that day, too. We also have holiday problems.

LennStar

Am 28.03.2014 12:07, schrieb Zbigniew Łukasiak:
> 19th of April is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Saturday - this is
> a no go for us in Poland.
> 
> Sorry - but you have to change the date.
> 
> Z.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm
>>
>> How did you choose the date for the demos?
>>
>> I've tried to contact some organizations and they don't know anything
>> about this.
>>
>> Maybe we should sent a doodle to all the NGOs that we want to invite?
>>
>> http://doodle.com/z3pep2mf6d9wivnx
>>
>> This is the way to get them on board. People don't want to join an
>> event that they have no say in creating it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Zbigniew
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de> wrote:
>>> Ah, I see what you are heading for: Avoiding double work by only using the wiki for collecting demo location entries.
>>> Yeah, this is definitely something which one can do...I like you. You have good ideas; I've put it into action: http://stopttipprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Demo_location_entries_in_protestmap
>>>
>>> To your Contact question:
>>> Well, here are all organizations listed, which were incorporated regarding the stopACTA protests (click on "Organisationen"): http://wiki.stoppacta-protest.info/index.php?title=Support&oldid=2547
>>> We definitely could need someone who does nothing else but contacting all thinkable organizations with individualized templates, in order to make them join the protest - well, who does that ? :D
>>> And last thought: You asked for AK-Vorrat - I'sd suggest prioritizing all organizations outside Germany; most german NGOs are very difficult to handle these days, especially now in election time.
>>> I bet that in other countries than Germany it's more easy to make organizations participate, especially USA, as over there no elections are soon ;) ... as soon as some NGOs in other countries
>>> participate, it's far easier to address german NGOs...
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> / aka Oliver
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>> Von: Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>> Datum: 27.03.2014 21:49:41
>>> An: Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>
>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide -  fight the ACTA zombies !
>>>
>>>> Hi there!
>>>>
>>>> Thumbs up for creating the wiki!
>>>>
>>>> So what is the procedure that you propose? I think that most newcomers
>>>> will edit the pad - so it will be probably our task to synchronize it
>>>> with the wiki. Wiki can look better than pad - so it might be more
>>>> 'official' and we can use it in outside communication probably.
>>>>
>>>> One question - do you have contacts from other organizations? Like AKVorrat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Zbigniew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> first of all: Sry for the delay !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The new neutral wiki in default-english - https://stopttipprotest.wikia.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - it's heavily under construction right now, so don't wonder how it
>>>> looks right now...
>>>>> - it's a rather new wiki version
>>>>> - you don't need to log in or be registered in order to edit ! (pro
>>>> easy access)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. This is the polish sub page - https://stopttipprotest.wikia.com/wiki/PL:Overview_Demos
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - do with it what you like ;) ...
>>>>> - I think it's also a good idea to link it in the protestmap, at least
>>>> temporarily.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Currently there are 4 countries participating and on the demo location
>>>> level 7 cities:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=z2_7kVjvOAF0.kJGmGBbsABbM
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> C'mon, folks. Can't be all. What's with the US pirates ? What's with
>>>> the french pirates ?
>>>>> The spanish pirates ? The canadian pirates ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Entry a demo location + relate wiki page or facebook event page with
>>>> promise option here: http://titanpad.com/19thaprilprotests
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> / aka Oliver
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>>> Von: Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>>>> Datum: 27.03.2014 13:29:37
>>>>> An: Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>,       Pirate Parties
>>>> International -- General Talk <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide
>>>> -  fight the ACTA zombies !
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday at the pad it was decided that we need a wiki with default
>>>>
>>>>>> English localization - is it ready now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like this subject gets very heated right now in Poland
>>>> - so
>>>>>> we need to start quickly with the organization of demos and gathering
>>>>
>>>>>> of TTIP info materials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Polish Ministry of Economy organizes some consultations on April
>>>>
>>>>>> 3rd for NGOs, we'll try to get there or pass our questions to the
>>>> NGOs
>>>>>> that will be invited. Do you guys have questions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Can the Ministry assure us that TTIP will not introduce software
>>>>
>>>>>> patents into Poland?
>>>>>> 2. Can the Ministry assure us that TTIP will not cause restrictions
>>>> in
>>>>>> fair use of copyrighted materials?
>>>>>> 3. Can the Ministry assure us that after signing TTIP Poland will
>>>>
>>>>>> still hold sovereign right to shorten the time of copyright protection
>>>>
>>>>>> or increase the fair use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember also from the TTIP discussion at PPUE meeting that TTIP
>>>> is
>>>>>> advertised using only the best case scenario calculations and the
>>>>
>>>>>> realistic case are never mentioned - but I am struggling with making
>>>> a
>>>>>> concrete question out of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Zbigniew ?ukasiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>>>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>>>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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