[pp.int.general] What's the minimal set of axioms for piratic ideology?
thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl
Wed Dec 9 21:11:58 CET 2015
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The point being, that if you fail to recognise that state and freedom
are opposing forces, the state usually wins. Ideologies that have not
recognised this were not judged too kindly by history.
Op 09/12/2015 om 21:05 schreef carlo von lynX:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 07:57:21PM +0100, Thijs Markus wrote:
>> The state's monopoly on violence is a solid guarantee for moral
> Even anarchic societies tend to develop a separation of powers over
> time, so the ideas of Montesquieu can't be all wrong.
>> decline. Since ancient Greece it has been known that democracies
>> invariably become kleptocracies, as has ours. As will your
>> "pirate logic" democracy.
> Unless we find a way to improve democracy.
>> Freedom is the ability to pick what you are bound to, if anything
>> at all. Freedom is the ability to make options rather than choose
>> amongst them. The state decides this for the entire collective,
>> and often with
> Since the ethical actions of individuals have never scaled up to
> nations or humanity as a whole, and since we have created a market
> system dominated by money-driven automatons, legislation is the
> only means we have to make ethical choices for humankind.
>> little influence of the populace (even as a collective), and
>> hence is invariably opposed to freedom.
> Unless we find a way to channel and implement the actual will of
> the population, whch isn't an easy task - but given there is no
> alternative, you can't deny us trying.
> So improving democracy would be an essential axiom of pirate
> politics or, should it be true that there is little influence of
> the populace, there will be no success of any kind of pirate
> Or all invariably logical reasonings are simplifying reality too
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