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I agree that it would be great to finalize the Manifesto, which could be a baseline for future pirate parties. From what I've understood it's only minor details away from a total consensus in Vienna among the participants. The problem with voting on it would be -- who would have the right to vote, and who would not, and why? It's much more legitimate if the parties there form an alliance around it as a document, and use it as an inclusion mechanism for new parties going forward.<BR>
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That could also be one of the basis for "membership" in PPI. (Yikes, that sounded formal.) What I meant to say was more like... knowing who's part of the community, and who - for their own good reasons - choose to do otherwise.<BR>
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I also agree totally with your vision of the PPI's role. It can't be "one to rule them all" -- in fact, our politics and platforms work the exact opposite way :-) so it'd have to be "one responsible for helping them all, getting the press in touch with the right people, and connecting pirates around the world". Just having a face for the movement, so to speak, without formal influence on the national parties.<BR>
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On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 14:41 +0200, Jan Huwald wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Dear pirates,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">we managed to establish the international communication. Not all pirate </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">parties (and those to be founded) have ambassador on this mailinglist. Not </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">everyone is publishing to the international wiki. But the common action of </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">subscribing to the G8 declaration mentioned by Christoph indicated that our </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">collaboration is a working one: the decision was fast and the doucment has </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">been signed by many european pirate parties (Austria, Germany, Netherland, </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Poland, Russia, Sweden, UK).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">But up to now this cooperation is only known to ourselves. The "international </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">pirate movement" has neither a face nor an (official) forespeaker. It is my </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">wish to change this. Therefore i'd like to establish a formal body </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">encapsulating and representating our efforts. This can be done in several </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">ways. Some thoughts I want to discuss with you:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">1. set up formal embassadors</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* properly elected (or determined) by the national pirate party, one per party</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* presented with photo & tam-tam on PPI</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* they should report about their countries' situation regulary</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">2. elect (a) forespeaker(s) for PPI</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Not one to rule them all, instead one for the press to call</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">3. found/understand PPI as the "world pirate party"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* a place where to create contracts between pirate parties (e.g. manifest)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* a place where to tell about all common issues</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* an organization with (legal) body to get fundings for congresses, refunding </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">of pirate parties and buildung free, censor-resistant infrastructure (at </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">least for pirates, better for mankind)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* find a way to make international decisions</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">4. Finish the pirate party manifest</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* how to discuss? (this includes if we should vote about argued issues, how we </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">vote if we do, if we want to allow only consens points, ...)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* timeframe for finishing</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">* should we combine the manifest with founding an international legal body?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I'd like to discuss these issues during the international congress in two </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">weeks. With it's high legitimation (chairmans from sweden, austria, peru, </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">germany) available we could also sign statutes for a meta-organisation - if </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">we discuss them now!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Regards,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jan Huwald</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Political secretray, german pirate party</FONT>
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