<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">----- Mensaje original ----<br>De: Ray Jenson <ray.jenson@gmail.com><br>Enviado: sábado, 19 de enero, 2008 19:54:20<br>> Jan Huwald wrote:<br><br>I think Jan's mail didn't reach my inbox ... damn Yahoo ...<br><br>> > They want a tax on advertisments wich is dedicated to culture
funding. I love the idea (and actually thought<br>> > proposing it would immediatly
brandmark one as communist), because:<br>> > a. Advertisments pollute information space by false information and
destroying poeples (and therefore society's)<br>> > attention<br>> > b. Those polluting the information space should pay compensation for
that damage<br>> > c. Culture (including journalism) can clean up information space and
also extend it<br>> Just my own opinions:<br>><br>> Advertisements don't really "pollute" information space any more than politics do.<br><br>A precise nuance :) Actually politics make 24/7 advertisements -specially when they're at the government xD-.<br><br>> A tax merely shifts who has more power and who can command more money out of the system. A tax would do<br>> nothing to change the system other than this.<br><br>I have to say that such tax goes against the rules of the Civil Law -at least in Spain-. Directive 2001/29/CE forces to settle a levy in exchange of allowing non-lucrative culture sharing, to compensate a hypothetical loss caused by that sharing -but only if that hypothetical loss exists or if it's not minimal; in accordance with 2001/29/CE, <span style="font-weight: bold;">if there is no significant loss there is no room for levies</span>-; however, the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">creditor</span> must be the
author, or the copyright holder if other, and the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">debtor</span> must be the one who shares the copyrighted works. One of the causes of such a strong opposition against levies in Spain is that, as currently they're implemented, levies in Spain make every single CD/DVD/MP3/4/Mobile Phone/USB/etc customer a debtor -which is illegal as only must be debtor the one who shares-. So how would a tax on advertisements be compatible with Civil Law, if the ones who would pay the tax wouldn't be the ones who share the copyrighted works?<br><br>> The question again (as you said, Jan), is one of whom the money goes
to, how much is going, and how it is paid. Simply<br>> paying a tax would worsen the problem, rather than bettering it. The big companies would gladly pay a tax to be able<br>> to propagandize at will, since they already
control the lobbies. A tax would offer them more freedom to propagandize,<br>> not less. They have virtually unlimited amounts of money with which to accomplish their aims. However, money is not<br>> really important where the ability to remain free. The issue is not as much one of who gets paid<br><br>I also agree with this one, Ray. Recently in France -Valentin can confirm it- Sarkozy proposed to create a tax on private media advertisements, in exchange of removing advertisements from public TV. Obviously -as themselves have stated- private media are largely cheerful, because while they will have to give up a share of the ad thing to the State, they will own the <span style="font-weight: bold;">whole</span> ad thing. Did I mention that Sarko also proposed to create a tax for that purpose -removing ads from public TV- ... on internet companies -who will probably add those taxes to internet connections-?
Regards<br><br><br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br><br> Partido Pirata National Board's
Chairman<br></div></div><br>
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