<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">----- Mensaje original ----<br>De: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes@gmail.com><br>Enviado: martes, 25 de marzo, 2008 19:58:47<br>On
25/03/2008,
Carlos
Ayala
<<a ymailto="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es" href="mailto:aiarakoa@yahoo.es">aiarakoa@yahoo.es</a>>
wrote:<br>> >
I
see.
Thus,
would
be
our
strategy
to
continue
ceding
-for
reasons
still
undisclosed-
before
just
starting
to
bring
up<br>> > our
claims?
Pretty
hard
to
agree
with
it.<br>> I
don't
see
it
as
strategy.
I'm
merely
proposing
a
tactics<br><br>Leaving aside that it's hard for me to find semantic differences between <span style="font-style: italic;">strategy</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;">tactics</span> ...<br><br>> We
have
our
goals,
which
will
presumably
include
no
levies,
but
we will
still
need
tactics
to
win
each
battle
on
the
way<br>> there.
Spain seems
to
have
had
a
much
bigger
problem
with
levies
up
to
now
than Sweden
has
had<br><br>... you can bet for sure about that fact -though we aren't the only ones ... ask Valentin Villenave about SACEM, just as a mere example-. And just because of that, hope you believe me when I say that RMOs -which is the same in Spain that entertainment industry, as the <span style="font-style: italic;">Big Four</span> are in the national board of Spanish biggest RMO, SGAE- never get satisfied, even if they're given all their claims.<br><br>Of course we need tactics, simply I think that ceding -without reason- to RMOs demands before starting to demand our goals seem to be tactics hard to assume.<br><br>> Luckily,
the
EU
bureaucracy
doesn't
necessarily
just
enable
levy legislation,
it
can
also
limit
it.
This
means
we
could,
if<br>> elected, push
for
a
reform
that
would
severely
limit
what
levies
member
states can
actually
charge.
Especially
if
you<br>> claim
the
only
damage
done
is the
moral
damage
of
losing
control
over
distribution.<br><br>When something has no reason to exist, there is no reason to limit it: it just has to be removed.<br><br>So please: why levies has to exist? How do you translate that supposed loss of control in monetary terms -which are the ones used as basis to define compensations according to civil law-? No harm, no pay, Amelia.<br><br>> Don't
define
copyright
as
solely
economical:
that's
Sony/BMG
tactics. Copyright
*is*
a
moral
right,
that
idealistically<br>> gives
control
to
the artist
over
the
artist's
own
work.<br><br>It's pretty weird to be accused of using the tactics of Sony-BMG while denying Sony-BMG claims, and at the same time to watch the one who accuses me saying "<span style="font-style: italic;">copyright is a moral right</span>". Which will be next step? wicked iusnaturalism -<span style="font-style: italic;">it's in the nature of things that copyright exist</span>-? God's will? Please, if we are defending free non-lucrative culture sharing is because we don't agree with the exclusive right to decide who, how, where, when and for whom make -if made without economic/commercial interests- copies of a cultural work.<br><br>Maybe when you talk about copyright you mean <a href="http://www.wipo.int/copyright/en/faq/faqs.htm#rights">the whole <span style="font-weight: bold;">material rights</span> combo</a> -right to make copies & right to perform & right to broadcast & right to translate & right to make derivative works- <span
style="font-weight: bold;">plus</span> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights"><span style="font-weight: bold;">moral rights</span></a> -right to have authorship & right to object to any distortion, mutilation or other modification of, or
other derogatory action in relation to, the said work, which would be
prejudicial to his honor or reputation- acknowledged; so who's mixing here? :)<br><br>Again let me ask to focus on what matters: is there something to be compensated? If there is, let's gonna compensate it; if there is not, the rest is literature. Regards,<br><br><br> Carlos
Ayala<br> ( Aiarakoa )<br><br> Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman<br></div></div><br>
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