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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>hi rick, </FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>very
helpful! questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>- what is the current
status in sweden?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>- in the netherlands, only
criminal prosecution authorities and our secret service is entitled to see the
collected (traffic) data, i.e. not the copyright owners themselves (they can
only report a criminal infringement - but our criminal authorities (so far) have
the right *not* to prosecute, and typically in copyright matters the position
has always been: try the private (civil) law route first).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>- connected to this: is
there any relation in the swedish implementation law proposal that makes a
connection between data retention and copyright enforcement? in the netherlands,
the implementation is by changing the telecommunications act, conly
connecting to the criminal procedure act, not (directly) to copyright anyway. if
the swedish act does make the connection, my "conspiracy theory" is no longer a
theory but a hard fact!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>i would be
interested to hear about the situation in germany as well (i read german,
not swedish ...) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao, Saygilar,
Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adios, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei, Yassou,
Yoroshiku<BR>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS PhD<BR>private: Johan Willem
Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126,
GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, fax +31 79 316 7221</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rick@piratpartiet.se href="mailto:rick@piratpartiet.se">Rick
Falkvinge (Piratpartiet)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net
href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">Pirate Parties
International -- General Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pp.int.general] urgent:
data retention and downloading</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Link to Google's translation (not perfect, but reasonably
understandable):<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frendo.se%2Fifpi080320.html&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8">http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frendo.se%2Fifpi080320.html&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8</A><BR><BR><BR>Rick
Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:482EF01B.90208@piratpartiet.se type="cite">The best
data for a response, I believe, would come from IFPI Sweden's response to
the Swedish Justice Department about the Swedish implementation proposal on
the Data Retention Directive.<BR><BR>Highlights:<BR><BR>...an implementation
of this directive constitutes an <FONT color=#990000>important foundation
and prerequisite</FONT> for IFPI's further work in taking action against
those who infringe on our rightsholders' rights on the
Internet...<BR><BR>...IFPI considers it important that <FONT
color=#990000>the implementation... is done in such a way that copyright
holders are given access to... traffic data</FONT>...<BR><BR>...If technical
innovation would make it possible to circumvent data retention or make it
impossible, this would potentially cause great harm to copyright holders.
...<BR><BR>...It shall be possible for law enforcement <FONT
color=#990000>and for rightsholders</FONT> to act judicially against a party
that infringes on rights, even when this happens on the Internet...
(<I>remember now, the context is a data retention directive
comment</I>)<BR><BR>...To fight illegal activity on the Internet, through
criminal and civil sanctions, it is therefore a necessity that some traffic
data be retained. In the case of a too restrictive regulation of data
retention, there is a real risk of a situation where where numerous illegal
acts cannot be mitigated.<BR><BR>See <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.frendo.se/ifpi080320.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.frendo.se/ifpi080320.html</A>. Google can
translate the rest of the text. My translations are from my printout of the
PDF (with lots of red markings on it).<BR><BR>Rick<BR><BR><BR>Reinier Bakels
wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>NL parliament will
vote next week about the Dutch law implementing the Data Retention
Directive. Government proposes 24 months, the supporters of 6 and 24
months are roughly in balance. Many commentaries in
newspapers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>None refers to a
link with copyright enforcement. I know Erik Josefsson noticed a long time
ago that there is probably a link between IPRED2 (thats makes copyright
infringement "severe crimes") and Data Retention, that is about collecting
data for the prosecution of "severe crimes" only.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>Could we claim
convincingly that "Data Retention" only pays lip service to terrorism and
(other) criminality, but actually is just another of the many measures
covertly proposed by desparate record companies to turn the Internet into
a police state for the purpose of winning a war against file sharers -
that is already almost lost?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>This is urgent - if
true, I will send a reaction to the newspapers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>reinier</FONT></DIV><PRE wrap=""><HR width="90%" SIZE=4>
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